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From: "Pratik R. Sampat" <prsampat@amd.com>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	ardb@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, osalvador@suse.de,
	thomas.lendacky@amd.com, michael.roth@amd.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/4] mm: Add support for unaccepted memory hotplug
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2025 16:07:34 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b767e107-9000-49fb-a93d-40192e1f170e@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uc6yz23havsg2cdgtk3fgku7xr4gj2ykse7lxitcs4eh2fw4vo@hyavdm3ovdfh>



On 12/11/25 9:00 AM, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 09, 2025 at 03:36:09PM -0600, Pratik R. Sampat wrote:
>>> Agreed, I think Kiryl was hinting at pre-allocated bitmaps as well.
>>>
>>> Since, the overhead to do this upfront is fairly minimal, that should
>>> certainly simplify things and have very little to no meddling with the
>>> original EFI struct.
>>>
>>
>> Taking another look at this suggestion, I think there may be more to it
>> than I previously thought. Parsing e820 tables to know what the range
>> are for allocating the bitmap to cover hotplug may be difficult. For e.g
>>
>> [ 0.000000] efi: mem110: [Unaccepted <snip>]
>> range=[0x0000000100000000-0x000000017fffffff] (2048MB)
>> [ 0.000000] efi: mem111: [Reserved   <snip>]
>> range=[0x000000fd00000000-0x000000ffffffffff] (12288MB)
>>
>> Parsing of the ACPI SRAT seems to be the one that gives us useful ranges
>> to base the upfront bitmap allocation on. e.g.
>> ...
>> [    0.018357] ACPI: SRAT: Node 0 PXM 0 [mem 0x100000000-0x17fffffff]
>> [    0.018781] ACPI: SRAT: Node 0 PXM 0 [mem 0x180000000-0x2ffffffff]
>> hotplug
>> This is also where max_possible_pfn gets updated to reflect this range.
> 
> Do I understand correctly that EFI memory map doesn't mention hot plug
> range at all, but SRAT does?
> 
> That's a mess. I thought, all hotpluggable range supposed to be declared
> in the memory map.

Not an EFI expert by a long shot, but seems so.
EFI_MEMORY_HOT_PLUGGABLE attribute does exist for hot-removable regions
of memory that must not be used for allocation during the boot context.
However, I am unclear if this in principle is also supposed to span
the entire range or just the cold-plugged regions of memory.

> 
> I wounder if it is what BIOS provides, or is it result of EFI memmap
> cleanup by kernel? I see we are doing bunch of them, like in
> efi_remove_e820_mmio().
> 
>> One potential solution could be to parse the SRAT during unaccepted
>> memory bitmap allocation in the EFI stub. However, this would fragment
>> the implementation by duplicating the SRAT parsing. Alternatively, we
>> could keep the current approach of dynamically allocating the bitmap on
>> hotplug or I could also replace the entire memblock_reserved unaccepted
>> table like Kiryl suggested if we must absolutely avoid changing the
>> unaccepted structure?
> 
> Other possible option would be to accept all memory on hotplug and don't
> touch the bitmap at all. It might be not that bad: it doesn't block boot.
> We can think of a better solution later, if needed.
> 

Absolutely, accepting memory as soon as it's added is easy.
Benchmarking it's effects may be a little tricky since unlike measuring
boot-time in eager vs lazy we may have to find representative workloads
to measure how much overheads accepting memory up-front adds.

Thanks
--Pratik

  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-11 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-25 17:57 [RFC PATCH 0/4] SEV-SNP Unaccepted Memory Hotplug Pratik R. Sampat
2025-11-25 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] efi/libstub: Decouple memory bitmap from the unaccepted table Pratik R. Sampat
2025-11-26 11:08   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-11-26 22:27     ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-11-27 17:29       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-11-25 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] mm: Add support for unaccepted memory hotplug Pratik R. Sampat
2025-11-26 11:12   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-11-26 22:27     ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-11-27 17:40       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-11-28  9:34         ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-01 17:15           ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-12-01 18:25             ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-01 19:35               ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-12-01 17:15         ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-12-01 17:48           ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-01 17:58             ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-11-26 22:31     ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-27 17:35       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-11-27 18:12         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-28  9:30           ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-28 11:34             ` Borislav Petkov
2025-12-01  9:18               ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-01 11:12                 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-12-01 18:32                   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-01 19:10                     ` Borislav Petkov
2025-12-01 20:10                       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-01 20:25                         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-12-01 20:36                           ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-03 14:46                             ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-03 15:58                               ` Borislav Petkov
2025-12-03 15:00             ` Rik van Riel
2025-11-28  9:32   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-01 17:21     ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-12-01 18:36       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-12-01 19:35         ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-12-09 21:36           ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-12-11 15:00             ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-11 22:07               ` Pratik R. Sampat [this message]
2025-11-25 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] x86/sev: Introduce hotplug-aware SNP page state validation Pratik R. Sampat
2025-11-25 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] mm: Add support for unaccepted memory hot-remove Pratik R. Sampat

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