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From: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Faster generic_fls
Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 04:40:58 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b8q8gq$4o3$1@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: p73ade730d1.fsf@oldwotan.suse.de

In article <p73ade730d1.fsf@oldwotan.suse.de>, Andi Kleen  <ak@suse.de> wrote:
>Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> writes:
>
>> Yeah, except if you want best code generation you should probably use
>> 
>> 	static inline int fls(int x)
>> 	{
>> 		int bit;
>> 		/* Only well-defined for non-zero */
>> 		asm("bsrl %1,%0":"=r" (bit):"rm" (x));
>
>"g" should work for the second operand too and it'll give gcc
>slightly more choices with possibly better code.

"g" allows immediates, which is _not_ correct.

>But the __builtin is probably preferable if gcc supports it because
>a builtin can be scheduled, inline assembly can't.

You're over-estimating gcc builtins, and underestimating inline
assembly. 

gcc builtins usually generate _worse_ code than well-written inline
assembly, since builtins try to be generic (at least the ones that are
cross-architecture).

And inline asms schedule as well as any built-in, unless they are marked
volatile (either explicitly or implicitly by not having any outputs).

And the proof is in the pudding: I'll bet you a dollar my code generates
better code. AND my code works on the intel compiler _and_ with older
gcc's.

The fact is, gcc builtins are almost never worth it. 

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-01  4:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87d6j34jad.fsf@student.uni-tuebingen.de.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0304301801210.20283-100000@home.transmeta.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-05-01  1:46   ` [RFC][PATCH] Faster generic_fls Andi Kleen
2003-05-01  4:40     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2003-05-01 12:00       ` David S. Miller
2003-05-02  5:14         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-03  2:21 Chuck Ebbert
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-02 10:04 Chuck Ebbert
2003-05-02 22:55 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-02  8:50 Chuck Ebbert
2003-05-02  9:37 ` Peter Osterlund
2003-05-01 17:15 Chuck Ebbert
2003-05-01 13:31 linux
2003-04-30  2:46 Daniel Phillips
2003-04-30  7:19 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-04-30  8:36   ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-04-30  8:43     ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-04-30  8:52     ` Aaron Lehmann
2003-04-30  8:51       ` P
2003-04-30 13:51   ` Daniel Phillips
2003-04-30 11:14 ` Falk Hueffner
2003-04-30 13:03   ` Daniel Phillips
2003-04-30 13:17     ` Falk Hueffner
2003-04-30 14:07       ` Daniel Phillips
2003-04-30 14:11   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-30 14:53     ` Falk Hueffner
2003-04-30 15:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-30 16:03         ` Falk Hueffner
2003-04-30 16:16           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-30 16:43             ` Falk Hueffner
2003-04-30 20:25             ` Alan Cox
2003-04-30 21:59               ` Falk Hueffner
2003-04-30 22:22                 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-30 23:41               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-30 22:47                 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-01  0:12                 ` Falk Hueffner
2003-05-01  1:07                   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-30 19:15     ` Daniel Phillips
2003-04-30 20:59       ` Willy Tarreau
2003-05-01  1:02         ` Daniel Phillips
2003-05-01  9:19           ` Willy Tarreau
2003-05-01 16:02             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-04-30 20:55 ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-01  5:03   ` hugang
2003-05-01  5:11     ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-01  5:33       ` hugang
2003-05-01  7:05         ` hugang
2003-05-01 13:52           ` Willy TARREAU
2003-05-01 14:14             ` Falk Hueffner
2003-05-01 14:26               ` Willy TARREAU
2003-05-01 14:53             ` hugang
2003-05-01 15:54               ` Thomas Schlichter
2003-05-02  0:33                 ` hugang
2003-05-01 17:16               ` Willy TARREAU
2003-05-01 23:27                 ` Thomas Schlichter
2003-05-02  0:10                   ` Willy Tarreau
2003-05-02  0:43                     ` Daniel Phillips
2003-05-02  0:54                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-05-02 12:21                         ` Daniel Phillips
2003-05-02  1:47                       ` Thomas Schlichter
2003-05-02 13:24                         ` Willy Tarreau
2003-05-02  0:13                   ` Daniel Phillips
2003-05-02  0:13             ` Lincoln Dale
2003-05-01  5:16   ` hugang
2003-05-01 10:22     ` Willy TARREAU
2003-05-01 11:17       ` hugang
2003-05-01 11:45         ` Willy TARREAU

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