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From: Holger Schurig <h.schurig@mn-logistik.de>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: State of devfs in 2.6?
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:08:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <br46v7$ab$1@sea.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: buooeuifk5q.fsf@mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp

>> * space. devfs doesn't eat space like the MAKEDEV approach.
> 
> Um, devfs does actually use a non-zero amount of code...

Yeh, it uses code. But if you look into a MAKEDEV bases file system, you see
hundreds of device files. Which uses inode and directory space on the
medium, may it be e2fs or jffs2.

I did not measure if the code for devfs is smaller as the code+config files
for udev. But I didn't make a statement about this.

> For a typical embedded device with about 5 entries in /dev I wouldn't
> be surprised if devfs used a lot _more_ space...

# find /dev | wc -l
    326

"Embedded" is not automatically a washing maschine with only 5 entries, it
can be a full blown Linux computer with 400 MHz, Framebuffer, USB Host, USB
Client, 7 serial ports for GSM, Barcode Scanner, Whatever, and so on. Like
our device.

However, even on such hardware-rich devices you usually have a constraint on
Flash Memory size. So having things small & simple is nice. That makes room
for the user applications & data.

-- 
Try Linux 2.6 from BitKeeper for PXA2x0 CPUs at
http://www.mn-logistik.de/unsupported/linux-2.6/


  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-09 10:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-08 15:36 State of devfs in 2.6? Andrew Walrond
2003-12-08 15:42 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-08 15:59   ` Andrew Walrond
2003-12-08 23:38     ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 10:37       ` Andrew Walrond
2003-12-09 10:57         ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 12:54         ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2003-12-09  5:04     ` Rob Landley
2003-12-08 19:09   ` udev sysfs docs " Bob
2003-12-08 23:37     ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  5:17       ` Witukind
2003-12-09  7:21         ` Bob
2003-12-09  7:39           ` Matthew Reppert
2003-12-09  8:52             ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09  9:16             ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  9:45               ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09  9:18           ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  9:46           ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-09 10:25             ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 15:28               ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-09 20:16               ` Oliver Hunt
2003-12-09 20:53                 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 22:14                   ` Olaf Hering
2003-12-09 22:46                   ` Oliver Hunt
2003-12-09 23:03                     ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09  7:56         ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  9:00           ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-09  9:08             ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  9:19               ` Miles Bader
2003-12-09  9:39                 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09 11:01                   ` Helge Hafting
2003-12-12 11:26                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-12 13:33                       ` Duncan Sands
2003-12-12 14:51                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-12 16:34                       ` Chuck Campbell
2003-12-12 17:13                         ` Chris Friesen
2003-12-12 17:17                         ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-15  2:12                           ` Miles Bader
2003-12-15  3:51                             ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-15  6:09                             ` Tim Connors
2003-12-10 19:23                   ` Witukind
2003-12-10 19:33                     ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-10 20:22                       ` Witukind
2003-12-10 20:47                         ` Ed Sweetman
2003-12-10 20:53                           ` Ed Sweetman
2003-12-10 21:31                             ` Witukind
2003-12-10 21:28                           ` Witukind
2003-12-10 21:48                             ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-11  6:31                               ` Witukind
2003-12-10 21:49                           ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-10 23:48                           ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-12-11  1:53                             ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-11  8:42                               ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-11 16:33                                 ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-10 20:48                         ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-10 23:40                       ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-12-09  9:55               ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-09 13:03                 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-12-09 15:01                   ` Helge Hafting
2003-12-09 18:30                   ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 18:53                     ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-10  7:02                       ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-10 20:06                         ` Witukind
2003-12-11  9:27                           ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-11 10:15                             ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-11 11:05                               ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-10  0:38                 ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  9:26             ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-09  9:41               ` Miles Bader
2003-12-10  8:13           ` Jakob Oestergaard
2003-12-10  8:24           ` Rob Landley
2003-12-08 23:04   ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-08 23:34     ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  0:31       ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2003-12-09  0:42         ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  0:51       ` [PATCH] sysfs support for vcs devices (was Re: State of devfs in 2.6?) Greg KH
2003-12-09  5:26       ` State of devfs in 2.6? Rob Landley
2003-12-09 18:19         ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 18:20         ` Greg KH
2003-12-09  7:02       ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-09  7:13         ` Murray J. Root
2003-12-09  8:21           ` Holger Schurig
2003-12-09  8:52             ` Miles Bader
2003-12-09 10:08               ` Holger Schurig [this message]
2003-12-09 17:10             ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-10  5:42               ` Greg KH
2003-12-10 23:29                 ` jw schultz
2003-12-11 20:32                 ` [2.4.23] cursor dissapears in framebuffer console after switching back from X Witukind
2003-12-11 23:59                   ` Gene Heskett
2003-12-12  6:24                     ` Witukind
2003-12-09  8:32         ` State of devfs in 2.6? Greg KH
2003-12-09  9:59           ` Jan Dittmer
2003-12-09 13:54             ` Matthew Reppert
2003-12-09 16:27             ` Greg KH
2003-12-09 16:47               ` Eduard Bloch
2003-12-09 19:33                 ` Greg KH
2003-12-10  2:15           ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-12-10  4:10             ` Bob
2003-12-09  7:33       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-12-09  9:48       ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-12-08 23:35 ` Greg KH
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2003-12-09 16:22                 ` Pascal Schmidt
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2003-12-09 18:50 Svetoslav Slavtchev

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