From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: bugzilla-daemon@freedesktop.org Subject: [Bug 102820] [bisected][DC] commit ebbf7337e2daacacef3e01114e6be68a2a4f11b4 prevents X11 from starting Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 22:25:33 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0908465511==" Return-path: Received: from culpepper.freedesktop.org (culpepper.freedesktop.org [IPv6:2610:10:20:722:a800:ff:fe98:4b55]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5766E797 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2017 22:25:33 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Sender: "dri-devel" To: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org List-Id: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org --===============0908465511== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="15082791333.538b4bC.23500"; charset="UTF-8" --15082791333.538b4bC.23500 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 22:25:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D102820 --- Comment #14 from dwagner --- (In reply to Alex Deucher from comment #13) > It's pretty vague unfortunately regarding HDMI: > It does not explicitly say 4K@60 on HDMI. The high refresh rates may only > be available on DP. Well then, if you suspect XFX to be sneaky bitches, I should refer you to t= he page of the actual reseller that I bought my XFX RX 460 from: https://www.caseking.de/en/xfx-radeon-rx-460-passive-heatsink-edition-2048-= mb-gddr5-gcxf-148.html which clearly states: "The 2.0b HDMI port carries a 4K/UHD resolution signa= l at 60 Hz and permits the sending and receiving of encrypted signals using the = HDCP 2.2 protocol (4K streaming, 4K Blu-Rays)." And that corresponds well to the many reports of Windows users you find on = the Internet that confirm XFX RX460 cards do in fact drive HDMI displays at 4k = 60Hz also under Windows - or should we assume the Windows drivers to be broken a= nd all those users just being "lucky"? > HDMI 2.0b does not imply 4K@60. Support of 4k @ 60Hz was the first and foremost feature advertised by the H= DMI licensors as being the main reason for introducing HDMI 2.0! - Here's their press release from back then:=20 https://www.hdmi.org/press/press_release.aspx?prid=3D133 and a clear statement on HDMI 2.0b supporting 4k@60Hz: https://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_2_0/index.aspx > Your board may work, but others might not depending on the board, cable, > monitor, etc. Yes, the GPU board cannot guarantee anything with regards to cabling or monitors - but how is that a reason for a driver software to keep users from even trying to use this fundamentally important, reseller-promised, broadly-reported-to-be-working-under-Windows feature? Should audio drivers discard LFE channels because some sound card vendor ca= nnot validate that the user connected a capable sub-woofer to his amplifier...? --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= --15082791333.538b4bC.23500 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 22:25:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated

Comme= nt # 14 on bug 10282= 0 from dwagner
(In reply to Alex Deucher from comment #13)
> It's pretty vague unfortunately regarding HDMI:
> It does not explicitly say 4K@60 on HDMI.  The high refresh rates =
may only
> be available on DP.

Well then, if you suspect XFX to be sneaky bitches, I should refer you to t=
he
page of the actual reseller that I bought my XFX RX 460 from:
https://www.caseking.de/en/xfx-radeon-rx=
-460-passive-heatsink-edition-2048-mb-gddr5-gcxf-148.html
which clearly states: "The 2.0b HDMI port carries a 4K/UHD resolution =
signal at
60 Hz and permits the sending and receiving of encrypted signals using the =
HDCP
2.2 protocol (4K streaming, 4K Blu-Rays)."

And that corresponds well to the many reports of Windows users you find on =
the
Internet that confirm XFX RX460 cards do in fact drive HDMI displays at 4k =
60Hz
also under Windows - or should we assume the Windows drivers to be broken a=
nd
all those users just being "lucky"?

> HDMI 2.0b does not imply 4K@60.

Support of 4k @ 60Hz was the first and foremost feature advertised by t=
he HDMI
licensors as being the main reason for introducing HDMI 2.0! - Here's their
press release from back then:=20
https:=
//www.hdmi.org/press/press_release.aspx?prid=3D133
and a clear statement on HDMI 2.0b supporting 4k@60Hz:
https://w=
ww.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_2_0/index.aspx

> Your board may work, but others might not depend=
ing on the board, cable,
> monitor, etc.

Yes, the GPU board cannot guarantee anything with regards to cabling or
monitors - but how is that a reason for a driver software to keep users from
even trying to use this fundamentally important, reseller-promised,
broadly-reported-to-be-working-under-Windows feature?

Should audio drivers discard LFE channels because some sound card vendor ca=
nnot
validate that the user connected a capable sub-woofer to his amplifier...?<=
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