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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspam-User: X-Rspamd-Server: rspam04 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E34E240007 X-Stat-Signature: qem37osc11odcrh6peuk73hd99wazcyu X-HE-Tag: 1782929649-967533 X-HE-Meta: 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 ut2X0d8z Z56UH/yiNougy7R+e1TqKuG+zAwLxHUE9QjeiHZwU3aCh51R+6moAoWgJQ3q9SXPl+PzEuzAEXXPYIZQ7e5wZIJ4Ub/4JiMad3JNbdAbELRAwZ9xoxbdWgfvW0y10fZxUzI+2whVdP0opkbn+eXBbXGsjev/mSq+MQXm/m4Si2soTHP+xJS/s/e186Ex3XuxxAf/RI/iikfEC+kFf4mGbzDjduT1NnL7I8by1+oNKHz3tp3GjvjPomcnnWmM1OAXbhbh0xqJoNGq3gkgwgYIYjrcNt/A3SPT1rUAtg5wZA3+J3j8DiFaK/lwAHhiZduFtIjEtDJfK+LdKYlAeHADRgpxvNg== Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 7/1/26 17:28, Johannes Weiner wrote: > On Wed, Jul 01, 2026 at 04:19:29PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote: >> On 6/26/26 20:21, Johannes Weiner wrote: >> > While trying to fix a reclaim storm in defrag_mode, I noticed that >> > non-movable direct compaction is extremely inefficient. >> > >> > When searching for space to evacuate, compaction only allows blocks of >> > the same type as the incoming request. This is to prevent migratetype >> > pollution, where a small non-movable request frees space in a movable >> > block and provokes the allocator to fall back and pollute it. >> > >> > This protection is reasonable on one hand, but the downside is that it >> > makes non-movable direct compaction nearly useless: if we get the type >> > annotations right, by definition there aren't any movable pages inside >> > the non-movable blocks it is allowed to scan. >> > >> > With defrag_mode, the goal is the production of whole blocks, which >> > are essentially type neutral: __rmqueue_claim() will convert them >> > wholesale on alloc. This makes type mixing and pollution a non-issue. >> > >> > Fix the pollution gates to take the requested order into account, and >> > allow whole-block requests to scan blocks of other types. >> > >> > The only exception is CMA blocks. That type is sticky and these blocks >> > cannot be claimed to other types. Continue to be strict with them, and >> > allow only explicit ALLOC_CMA requests and kcompactd to evacuate them. >> > >> > Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner >> >> Reviewed-by: Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) > > Thanks! > >> > diff --git a/mm/compaction.c b/mm/compaction.c >> > index f08765ade014..7df3a85d43af 100644 >> > --- a/mm/compaction.c >> > +++ b/mm/compaction.c >> > @@ -1381,12 +1381,33 @@ static bool suitable_migration_source(struct compact_control *cc, >> > if (pageblock_skip_persistent(page)) >> > return false; >> > >> > - if ((cc->mode != MIGRATE_ASYNC) || !cc->direct_compaction) >> > + /* >> > + * Background compaction produces blocks for the zone at >> > + * large, with no particular allocation context. Allow all >> > + * block types, including CMA. >> > + */ >> > + if (!cc->direct_compaction) >> > return true; >> > >> > block_mt = get_pageblock_migratetype(page); >> > >> > - if (cc->migratetype == MIGRATE_MOVABLE) >> > + /* >> > + * CMA pages can only be taken by ALLOC_CMA requests. For anybody >> > + * else, vacating a CMA block consumes free pages the caller >> > + * could have used, and produces free pages it cannot. >> > + */ >> > + if (is_migrate_cma(block_mt) && !(cc->alloc_flags & ALLOC_CMA)) >> > + return false; >> > + >> > + if (cc->mode != MIGRATE_ASYNC) >> > + return true; >> >> This now stands out as uncommented. Can we come up with a rationale? :) > > Let's see. Originally it came from here: > > commit 9927af740b1b9b1e769310bd0b91425e8047b803 > Author: Mel Gorman > Date: Thu Jan 13 15:45:59 2011 -0800 > > mm: compaction: perform a faster migration scan when migrating asynchronously > > This limited async scanners to movable blocks. By keeping them to the > most productive space, it keeps their latencies down. > > But then there was a follow up here: > > commit 282722b0d258ec23fc79d80165418fee83f01736 > Author: Vlastimil Babka > Date: Mon May 8 15:54:49 2017 -0700 > > mm, compaction: restrict async compaction to pageblocks of same migratetype Aha :) > This made the migratetype filtering about preventing block > pollution. The patch quotes reduced extfrag numbers. > > So now we have a block pollution guard that we apply only if... the > scanner is latency sensitive? :) Is this actually desired behavior? Yeah indeed I was wondering in this direction. > Another way of looking at it would be this: > > /* > * Allocation fallbacks can spread migratable pages > * into non-movable blocks. But also vice versa, non-movable pages into movable blocks? (without defrag_mode?). > This is high-effort, > * low-result work. Restrict it to sync scans. > */ Works for me.