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From: Nicola Vetrini <nicola.vetrini@bugseng.com>
To: Dmytro Prokopchuk1 <dmytro_prokopchuk1@epam.com>
Cc: "Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	"Doug Goldstein" <cardoe@cardoe.com>,
	"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@vates.tech>,
	"Michal Orzel" <michal.orzel@amd.com>,
	"Julien Grall" <julien@xen.org>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, "Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] misra: add deviation for MISRA C Rule 11.3
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2025 09:49:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c2d212972ec11d133defbae610981d82@bugseng.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <278915c9-0049-4e25-90ab-9bb3da7ecee1@epam.com>

On 2025-09-25 21:11, Dmytro Prokopchuk1 wrote:
> On 8/25/25 13:23, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 24.08.2025 19:27, Dmytro Prokopchuk1 wrote:
>>> MISRA C Rule 11.3 states: "A cast shall not be performed between a 
>>> pointer
>>> to object type and a pointer to a different object type."
>>> 
>>> Violations of this rule arise due to the 'container_of()' macro, 
>>> which casts
>>> a member of a structure to its containing structure:
>>>      container_of(ptr, type, member) ({                             \
>>>             typeof_field(type, member) *__mptr = (ptr);             \
>>>             (type *)( (char *)__mptr - offsetof(type,member) );})
>>> 
>>> The 'container_of()' macro is safe because it relies on the 
>>> standardized and
>>> well-defined 'offsetof()' macro to calculate the memory address of 
>>> the
>>> containing structure, while assuming proper alignment and ensuring no
>>> undefined behavior, provided that the input pointer is valid and 
>>> points to
>>> the specified member.
>> 
>> I may have said so before: This all reads okay to me, just that I'm 
>> unsure
>> it would actually be convincing to an assessor. The "provided that 
>> ..." is
>> a pretty strong requirement, which isn't overly hard to get wrong. 
>> Stefano,
>> Nicola - what's your take here?
>> 
>> Jan
> 
> Stefano, Nicola,
> 
> gentle reminder.
> 
> Dmytro.

The fact that you can't guarantee that the pointer you receive is 
aligned was the main reason why I didn't already introduce such a 
deviation in the first place. Now, as Stefano pointed out unaligned 
accessed are largely ok on ARM and x86, with the exception on MMIO 
pointers (hard fault) and some niche cases in x86 which probably don't 
matter for Xen dealing with vectorized data types. So the crucial point 
(not just for this specific deviation) is ensuring that pointer are 
properly aligned when it matters, which in this case is the same as 
making sure that "ptr" indeed points to a struct member. What might be a 
convincing argument is to have sufficient testing and sanitizers (ASAN 
mostly helps here) to show that this assumption is met with some degree 
of confidence.

-- 
Nicola Vetrini, B.Sc.
Software Engineer
BUGSENG (https://bugseng.com)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicola-vetrini-a42471253


      reply	other threads:[~2025-09-26  7:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-24 17:27 [PATCH v2] misra: add deviation for MISRA C Rule 11.3 Dmytro Prokopchuk1
2025-08-25 10:23 ` Jan Beulich
2025-09-25 19:11   ` Dmytro Prokopchuk1
2025-09-26  7:49     ` Nicola Vetrini [this message]

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