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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Markus Schneider-Pargmann <msp@baylibre.com>,
	Kendall Willis <k-willis@ti.com>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	s-kochidanadu@ti.com, a-kaur@ti.com, s-tripathi1@ti.com,
	vishalm@ti.com, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: input: gpio-keys: add pinctrl states
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2026 10:48:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c356fbfa-0787-4314-862c-aa51972d59d7@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <arGGhvIieis2_sZ9@google.com>

On 21/09/2026 21:35, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2026 at 12:24:32PM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 16/09/2026 17:36, Markus Schneider-Pargmann wrote:
>>> On Wed Sep 16, 2026 at 9:17 AM CEST, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 12:41:03PM -0500, Kendall Willis wrote:
>>>>> On 19:07-20260915, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 15/09/2026 19:05, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15/09/2026 18:48, Kendall Willis wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 12:13-20260914, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 12, 2026 at 04:33:53PM -0500, Kendall Willis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Document pinctrl properties on the gpio-keys device node. By using the
>>>>>>>>>> wakeup pinctrl state, the pins are able to wakeup the system from a
>>>>>>>>>> low-power state. The default pinctrl state describes the default pin
>>>>>>>>>> configuration.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Kendall Willis <k-willis@ti.com>
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/gpio-keys.yaml | 16 ++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>  1 file changed, 16 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/gpio-keys.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/gpio-keys.yaml
>>>>>>>>>> index cc78c2152921308fe0cad3e29ca78a5fad08f066..b554933e93412d8b6c2ec401dc1e1eeff57d4190 100644
>>>>>>>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/gpio-keys.yaml
>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/gpio-keys.yaml
>>>>>>>>>> @@ -22,6 +22,22 @@ properties:
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>    poll-interval: true
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> +  pinctrl-0:
>>>>>>>>>> +    description: Default pinctrl state
>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>> +  pinctrl-1:
>>>>>>>>>> +    description: Wakeup pinctrl state
>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>> +  pinctrl-names:
>>>>>>>>>> +    description:
>>>>>>>>>> +      When present should contain at least "default" describing the default pin
>>>>>>>>>> +      states. The second state called "wakeup" describes the pins in their
>>>>>>>>>> +      wakeup configuration required to exit sleep states.
>>>>>>>>>> +    minItems: 1
>>>>>>>>>> +    items:
>>>>>>>>>> +      - const: default
>>>>>>>>>> +      - const: wakeup
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This will introduce new warnings, which should be being fixed in this
>>>>>>>>> patchset (e.g. at91-kizbox3-hs.dts).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Will fix the binding to work with current device trees.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But nevertheless, isn't second state the sleep state? How can you
>>>>>>>>> configure pins for the wakeup state - like being in the wakeup? You
>>>>>>>>> configure the pins for given state, which will be a system suspend, so
>>>>>>>>> sleep?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The sleep state usually refers to putting the pins in a state to save
>>>>>>>> power. The wakeup pinctrl state is for putting the pins in a state to
>>>>>>>> allow wakeup from suspend for that device. Both 'sleep' and 'wakeup'
>>>>>>>> are for system suspend, but they fill different functions. The CAN
>>>>>>>> subsystem also uses the 'wakeup' state in addition to the 'sleep' state
>>>>>>>> [1].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you mean sleep would be a separate state? But then aren't both
>>>>>>> exactly the same states? IOW, if device is wakeup-source, it will have
>>>>>>> for "sleep" state pin configuration allowing to wakeup.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 'sleep' and 'wakeup' pin states are both used for suspend. They
>>>>> would just be used separately since only one could be used at a time.
>>>>> The reason 'wakeup' is separated out is because it is more specific for
>>>>> allowing wakeup from the device.
>>>>
>>>> If they cannot be used together, then it is the same state.
>>>
>>> If I understand this patch correctly, 'sleep' is not relevant here.
>>> But 'sleep' and 'wakeup' serve different purposes and can be
>>> used/defined together in a single device in the devicetree:
>>>  - 'sleep' describes the pin state during suspend if wakeup is not
>>>    enabled by the user or there is no 'wakeup' pin state defined.
>>>  - 'wakeup' describes the pin state during suspend if wakeup is enabled
>>>    by the user.
>>> If the user enables wakeup, 'wakeup' is the relevant state and otherwise
>>> 'sleep'. Which one applieas is a runtime decision of the the user.
>>>
>>> I introduced these two states for m_can for that reason. This was
>>> discussed here:
>>>   https://lore.kernel.org/r/DCD1YPX4T779.ADK4JCGW1MU7@baylibre.com
>>>
>>> And then reviewed/applied in v10:
>>>   https://lore.kernel.org/r/175993598226.3512549.5295923279078928995.robh@kernel.org
>>
>> So we seems to be discussing same issue again, because commit msg lacks
>> proper explanations.
>>
>> The problem and difference here is that there is no sleep state.
> 
> Isn't there? 

Isn't. Quoting patch:

+    items:
+      - const: default
+      - const: wakeup

No sleep. :( So both the commit msg, rationale and could improve so we
won't be asking the same questions at v2.

> The wakeup can be controlled from userspace and can't we
> possible have 2 distinct pin control states, one for when a device is a
> potential wakeup source, and another one when the device is in "off"
> state while system is asleep?
> 
> Thanks.
> 


Best regards,
Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-22  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-12 21:33 [PATCH 0/2] Input: gpio-keys - support wakeup pinctrl state Kendall Willis
2026-09-12 21:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: input: gpio-keys: add pinctrl states Kendall Willis
2026-09-12 21:41   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-14 10:13   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-09-15 16:48     ` Kendall Willis
2026-09-15 17:05       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-09-15 17:07         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-09-15 17:41           ` Kendall Willis
2026-09-16  7:17             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-09-16 15:36               ` Markus Schneider-Pargmann
2026-09-20 10:24                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-09-21 19:35                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2026-09-22  8:48                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2026-09-25 15:48       ` Kendall Willis
2026-09-12 21:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] Input: gpio-keys - support wakeup pinctrl state on suspend Kendall Willis
2026-09-12 21:42   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-14  7:51   ` Markus Schneider-Pargmann
2026-09-15 16:09     ` Kendall Willis
2026-09-14  5:59 ` [PATCH 0/2] Input: gpio-keys - support wakeup pinctrl state Francesco Dolcini

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