From: Daniel Burgener <dburgener@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com>, paul@paul-moore.com
Cc: omosnace@redhat.com, selinux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] selinux: move policy commit after updating selinuxfs
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020 08:37:41 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c4610708-3bc6-e5fe-29da-f07c1323eaff@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <685a0fd4-d5a2-0cc8-4b9d-ad39cf916b16@gmail.com>
On 8/5/20 8:35 AM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On 8/4/20 4:51 PM, Daniel Burgener wrote:
>
>> On 8/4/20 9:53 AM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
>>> With the refactoring of the policy load logic in the security
>>> server from the previous change, it is now possible to split out
>>> the committing of the new policy from security_load_policy() and
>>> perform it only after successful updating of selinuxfs. Change
>>> security_load_policy() to return the newly populated policy
>>> data structures to the caller, export selinux_policy_commit()
>>> for external callers, and introduce selinux_policy_cancel() to
>>> provide a way to cancel the policy load in the event of an error
>>> during updating of the selinuxfs directory tree. Further, rework
>>> the interfaces used by selinuxfs to get information from the policy
>>> when creating the new directory tree to take and act upon the
>>> new policy data structure rather than the current/active policy.
>>> Update selinuxfs to use these updated and new interfaces. While
>>> we are here, stop re-creating the policy_capabilities directory
>>> on each policy load since it does not depend on the policy, and
>>> stop trying to create the booleans and classes directories during
>>> the initial creation of selinuxfs since no information is available
>>> until first policy load.
>>>
>>> After this change, a failure while updating the booleans and class
>>> directories will cause the entire policy load to be canceled, leaving
>>> the original policy intact, and policy load notifications to userspace
>>> will only happen after a successful completion of updating those
>>> directories. This does not (yet) provide full atomicity with respect
>>> to the updating of the directory trees themselves.
>>
>> I have a patch series to perform the atomic updates very close to
>> done, using vfs_rename with RENAME_EXCHANGE to update the directories
>> out of tree and then swap them in as discussed earlier. I've just
>> been doing some final style cleanup before sending to the list. I'll
>> need to rebase on top of these changes of course. I didn't touch any
>> of the error recovery portions, so I hope my series will complement
>> this patch nicely.
>
> Great, I was trying to ensure that we wouldn't conflict/overlap
> significantly.
>
>>> This patch is relative to my previous one,
>>> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11698505/. Although this does
>>> not ensure atomicity when updating the selinuxfs directoty tree,
>>> I suspect it will solve Daniel's original bug because systemd/dbusd
>>> won't get the policy load notifications until the kernel is done
>>> updating selinuxfs and therefore won't try to re-read selinuxfs
>>> in the middle of it (because libselinux caches the class/perm
>>> mappings and only flushes on a reload).
>> I agree with your suspicion that this will resolve the bug we've been
>> seeing (although only as a result of changing the timing, as you
>> point out). Thanks for your work on this!
>
> If you can easily test that my patches resolve that bug for you, you
> could add a Tested-by tag. One caveat is that it sounds like I'll be
> making one more change to the previous patch per Ondrej's request to
> avoid taking the read lock around sidtab_convert().
Sounds good. I will wait for your update, and then test this series.
>
>>> @@ -563,15 +560,19 @@ static ssize_t sel_write_load(struct file
>>> *file, const char __user *buf,
>>> if (copy_from_user(data, buf, count) != 0)
>>> goto out;
>>> - length = security_load_policy(fsi->state, data, count);
>>> + length = security_load_policy(fsi->state, data, count,
>>> &newpolicy);
>>> if (length) {
>>> pr_warn_ratelimited("SELinux: failed to load policy\n");
>>> goto out;
>>> }
>>> - length = sel_make_policy_nodes(fsi);
>>> - if (length)
>>> + length = sel_make_policy_nodes(fsi, newpolicy);
>>> + if (length) {
>>> + selinux_policy_cancel(fsi->state, newpolicy);
>>> goto out1;
>> As things stand as of this patch, I think that this means that in the
>> event of a failure in recreating the directories, that directory will
>> be left unpopulated or partially populated. We could even get in a
>> state where the booleans directory has already been updated to the
>> new policy and the class directory has not. The full solution is of
>> course atomic swapover, which as I mentioned above I hope to submit a
>> series for soon, but I wonder if recreating the directories on the
>> old policy would be a better interim state? That probably depends on
>> what sorts of errors are possible. If we've failed because of
>> something about the new policy, recreating the old directories should
>> get us back to a good state. If we can't create new directories at
>> all for whatever reason, trying to recreate might leave us worse off
>> than before we started.
>
> I deliberately avoided any changes to the error handling during
> re-creation of the booleans and class directories because I viewed
> that as logically separate from my change and likely to conflict with
> your changes. So I expect to revisit that issue after both my patches
> and yours land. I think the only scenario where
> sel_make_bools/classes() can fail is an out-of-memory condition and if
> we are out of memory then we are unlikely to be able to re-create the
> old directories/files again. Hence, I don't think there is anything
> useful we can do without the atomic swapover. At most, we can delete
> everything under booleans and class on any failure while re-creating
> so that we aren't left with the partial set of booleans/classes.
>
> The other possibility I considered is explicitly checking whether
> there are any changes to booleans or classes between the old and new
> policies and if not, skipping that part of the selinuxfs update. That
> however would require a new security server function to iterate over
> all of the booleans and classes in two selinux_policy structures and
> compare them for equality. Didn't seem worth it if the atomic
> swapover support was coming anyway.
>
Sounds good.
-Daniel
prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-05 19:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-04 13:53 [RFC PATCH] selinux: move policy commit after updating selinuxfs Stephen Smalley
2020-08-04 20:19 ` Stephen Smalley
2020-08-05 16:16 ` Stephen Smalley
2020-08-04 20:51 ` Daniel Burgener
2020-08-05 12:35 ` Stephen Smalley
2020-08-05 12:37 ` Daniel Burgener [this message]
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