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From: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "Korenblit, Miriam Rachel" <miriam.rachel.korenblit@intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 6.18.13 iwlwifi deadlock allocating cma while work-item is active.
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2026 07:50:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c616fc41-3bc7-4ddc-b65c-a622111d8548@candelatech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bed9cc03d3c214b2601093f91e4b00f3715762b2.camel@sipsolutions.net>

On 3/2/26 07:38, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Mon, 2026-03-02 at 07:26 -0800, Ben Greear wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Was this with lockdep? If so, it complain about anything?
>>>
>>> I'm having a hard time seeing why it would deadlock at all when wifi
>>> uses  schedule_work() and therefore the system_percpu_wq, and
>>> __lru_add_drain_all() flushes lru_add_drain_work on mm_percpu_wq, and
>>> lru_add_and_bh_lrus_drain() doesn't really _seem_ to do anything related
>>> to RTNL etc.?
>>>
>>> I think we need a real explanation here rather than "if I randomly
>>> change this, it no longer appears".
>>
>> The path where iwlwifi acquires CMA holds rtnl and/or wiphy locks before
>> allocating CMA memory, as expected.
>>
>> And the CMA allocation path attempts to flush the work queues in
>> at least some cases.
>>
>> If there is a work item queued that is trying to grab rtnl and/or wiphy lock
>> when CMA attempts to flush, then the flush work cannot complete, so it deadlocks.
>>
>> Lockdep doesn't warn about this.
> 
> It really should, in cases where it can actually happen, I wrote the
> code myself for that... Though things have changed since, and the checks
> were lost at least once (and re-added), so I suppose it's possible that
> they were lost _again_, but the flushing system is far more flexible now
> and it's not flushing the same workqueue anyway, so it shouldn't happen.
> 
> I stand by what I said before, need to show more precisely what depends
> on what, and I'm not going to accept a random kthread into this.

My first email on the topic has process stack traces as well as lockdep
locks-held printout that points to the deadlock.  I'm not sure what else to offer...please let me know
what you'd like to see.

Thanks,
Ben


> 
> johannes
> 

-- 
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Candela Technologies Inc  http://www.candelatech.com



  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-02 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-23 22:36 6.18.13 iwlwifi deadlock allocating cma while work-item is active Ben Greear
2026-02-27 16:31 ` Ben Greear
2026-03-01 15:38   ` Ben Greear
2026-03-02  8:07     ` Johannes Berg
2026-03-02 15:26       ` Ben Greear
2026-03-02 15:38         ` Johannes Berg
2026-03-02 15:50           ` Ben Greear [this message]
2026-03-03 11:49             ` Johannes Berg
2026-03-03 20:52               ` Tejun Heo
2026-03-03 21:03                 ` Johannes Berg
2026-03-03 21:12                 ` Johannes Berg
2026-03-03 21:40                   ` Ben Greear
2026-03-03 21:54                     ` Tejun Heo
2026-03-04  0:02                       ` Ben Greear
2026-03-04 17:14                         ` Tejun Heo
2026-03-04 17:14                           ` Tejun Heo
2026-03-10 16:10                           ` Ben Greear
2026-03-10 18:06                             ` Tejun Heo
2026-03-10 19:18                               ` Ben Greear
2026-03-10 19:47                                 ` Tejun Heo
2026-03-10 19:48                                   ` Tejun Heo
2026-03-04  3:08               ` Hillf Danton
2026-03-04  6:57                 ` Johannes Berg

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