From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Albert Esteve <aesteve@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
slp@redhat.com, hi@alyssa.is, mst@redhat.com,
jasowang@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
"Stefano Garzarella" <sgarzare@redhat.com>,
stevensd@chromium.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/5] vhost-user: Add VIRTIO Shared Memory map request
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 11:50:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c998c231-5034-4a7e-bf97-1470959c052d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADSE00+Yg+ufOT1NQ+8H7DSaE0zCFrWbn-yTajx72G0BZdUw9g@mail.gmail.com>
>> RAM memory region/ RAMBlock that has properly set flags/fd/whatssoever
>> and map whatever you want in there.
>>
>> Likely you would need a distinct RAMBlock/RAM memory region per mmap(),
>> and would end up mmaping implicitly via qemu_ram_mmap().
>>
>> Then, your shared region would simply be an empty container into which
>> you map these RAM memory regions.
>
Hi,
> Hi, sorry it took me so long to get back to this. Lately I have been
> testing the patch and fixing bugs, and I am was going to add some
> tests to be able to verify the patch without having to use a backend
> (which is what I am doing right now).
>
> But I wanted to address/discuss this comment. I am not sure of the
> actual problem with the current approach (I am not completely aware of
> the concern in your first paragraph), but I see other instances where
> qemu mmaps stuff into a MemoryRegion.
I suggest you take a look at the three relevant MAP_FIXED users outside
of user emulation code.
(1) hw/vfio/helpers.c: We create a custom memory region + RAMBlock with
memory_region_init_ram_device_ptr(). This doesn't mmap(MAP_FIXED)
into any existing RAMBlock.
(2) system/physmem.c: I suggest you take a close look at
qemu_ram_remap() and how it is one example of how RAMBlock
properties describe exactly what is mmaped.
(3) util/mmap-alloc.c: Well, this is the code that performs the mmap(),
to bring a RAMBlock to life. See qemu_ram_mmap().
There is some oddity hw/xen/xen-mapcache.c; XEN mapcache seems to manage
guest RAM without RAMBlocks.
> Take into account that the
> implementation follows the definition of shared memory region here:
> https://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/v1.3/csd01/virtio-v1.3-csd01.html#x1-10200010
> Which hints to a memory region per ID, not one per required map. So
> the current strategy seems to fit it better.
I'm confused, we are talking about an implementation detail here? How is
that related to the spec?
>
> Also, I was aware that I was not the first one attempting this, so I
> based this code in previous attempts (maybe I should give credit in
> the commit now that I think of):
> https://gitlab.com/virtio-fs/qemu/-/blob/qemu5.0-virtiofs-dax/hw/virtio/vhost-user-fs.c?ref_type=heads#L75
> As you can see, it pretty much follows the same strategy.
So, people did some hacky things in a QEMU fork 6 years ago ... :) That
cannot possibly be a good argument why we should have it like that in QEMU.
> And in my
> examples I have been able to use this to video stream with multiple
> queues mapped into the shared memory (used to capture video frames),
> using the backend I mentioned above for testing. So the concept works.
> I may be wrong with this, but for what I understood looking at the
> code, crosvm uses a similar strategy. Reserve a memory block and use
> for all your mappings, and use an allocator to find a free slot.
>
Again, I suggest you take a look at what a RAMBlock is, and how it's
properties describe the containing mmap().
> And if I were to do what you say, those distinct RAMBlocks should be
> created when the device starts? What would be their size? Should I
> create them when qemu receives a request to mmap? How would the driver
> find the RAMBlock?
You'd have an empty memory region container into which you will map
memory regions that describe the memory you want to share.
mr = g_new0(MemoryRegion, 1);
memory_region_init(mr, OBJECT(TODO), "vhost-user-shm", region_size);
Assuming you are requested to mmap an fd, you'd create a new
MemoryRegion+RAMBlock that describes the memory and performs the mmap()
for you:
map_mr = g_new0(MemoryRegion, 1);
memory_region_init_ram_from_fd(map_mr, OBJECT(TODO), "TODO", map_size,
RAM_SHARED, map_fd, map_offs, errp);
To then map it into your container:
memory_region_add_subregion(mr, offset_within_container, map_mr);
To unmap, you'd first remove the subregion, to then unref the map_mr.
The only alternative would be to do it like (1) above: you perform all
of the mmap() yourself, and create it using
memory_region_init_ram_device_ptr(). This will set RAM_PREALLOC on the
RAMBlock and tell QEMU "this is special, just disregard it". The bad
thing about RAM_PREALLOC will be that it will not be compatible with
vfio, not communicated to other vhost-user devices etc ... whereby what
I describe above would just work with them.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-27 10:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-12 14:53 [PATCH v3 0/5] vhost-user: Add SHMEM_MAP/UNMAP requests Albert Esteve
2024-09-12 14:53 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] vhost-user: Add VIRTIO Shared Memory map request Albert Esteve
2024-09-16 17:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-11-25 9:55 ` Albert Esteve
2024-09-17 10:07 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-25 8:28 ` Albert Esteve
2024-11-27 10:50 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-11-27 12:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-27 12:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-27 12:31 ` Albert Esteve
2024-11-27 12:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-27 12:55 ` Albert Esteve
2024-09-12 14:53 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] virtio: Track shared memory mappings Albert Esteve
2024-09-16 17:27 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-09-12 14:53 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] vhost_user: Add frontend command for shmem config Albert Esteve
2024-09-17 7:48 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-09-17 7:50 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-09-12 14:53 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] vhost-user-dev: Add cache BAR Albert Esteve
2024-09-17 8:27 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-11-25 16:16 ` Albert Esteve
2024-11-26 7:55 ` Albert Esteve
2024-11-26 12:51 ` Albert Esteve
2024-09-17 8:32 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-09-17 8:36 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-09-12 14:53 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] vhost_user: Add MEM_READ/WRITE backend requests Albert Esteve
2024-09-12 14:59 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] vhost-user: Add SHMEM_MAP/UNMAP requests Albert Esteve
2024-09-16 17:57 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-09-17 7:05 ` Albert Esteve
2024-09-17 7:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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