From: Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, pasic@linux.ibm.com,
richard.henderson@linaro.org, david@redhat.com, thuth@redhat.com,
cohuck@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, ehabkost@redhat.com,
marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com, eblake@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com,
seiden@linux.ibm.com, nrb@linux.ibm.com, frankja@linux.ibm.com,
Viktor Mihajlovski <mihajlov@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 00/10] s390x: CPU Topology
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2022 10:25:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ccb73052-43e5-e072-b201-e983df876e6a@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e8d4c74-7405-5e1f-6c95-3c0c99c43eb9@linux.ibm.com>
Gentle ping.
Did I understand the problem or am I wrong?
On 11/17/22 17:38, Pierre Morel wrote:
>
>
> On 11/17/22 10:31, Pierre Morel wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/16/22 17:51, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
>>> Am 02.09.22 um 09:55 schrieb Pierre Morel:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The implementation of the CPU Topology in QEMU has been drastically
>>>> modified since the last patch series and the number of LOCs has been
>>>> greatly reduced.
>>>>
>>>> Unnecessary objects have been removed, only a single S390Topology
>>>> object
>>>> is created to support migration and reset.
>>>>
>>>> Also a documentation has been added to the series.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To use these patches, you will need Linux V6-rc1 or newer.
>>>>
>>>> Mainline patches needed are:
>>>>
>>>> f5ecfee94493 2022-07-20 KVM: s390: resetting the Topology-Change-Report
>>>> 24fe0195bc19 2022-07-20 KVM: s390: guest support for topology function
>>>> 0130337ec45b 2022-07-20 KVM: s390: Cleanup ipte lock access and SIIF
>>>> fac..
>>>>
>>>> Currently this code is for KVM only, I have no idea if it is
>>>> interesting
>>>> to provide a TCG patch. If ever it will be done in another series.
>>>>
>>>> To have a better understanding of the S390x CPU Topology and its
>>>> implementation in QEMU you can have a look at the documentation in the
>>>> last patch.
>>>>
>>>> New in this series
>>>> ==================
>>>>
>>>> s390x/cpus: Make absence of multithreading clear
>>>>
>>>> This patch makes clear that CPU-multithreading is not supported in
>>>> the guest.
>>>>
>>>> s390x/cpu topology: core_id sets s390x CPU topology
>>>>
>>>> This patch uses the core_id to build the container topology
>>>> and the placement of the CPU inside the container.
>>>>
>>>> s390x/cpu topology: reporting the CPU topology to the guest
>>>>
>>>> This patch is based on the fact that the CPU type for guests
>>>> is always IFL, CPUs are always dedicated and the polarity is
>>>> always horizontal.
>>>> This may change in the future.
>>>>
>>>> hw/core: introducing drawer and books for s390x
>>>> s390x/cpu: reporting drawers and books topology to the guest
>>>>
>>>> These two patches extend the topology handling to add two
>>>> new containers levels above sockets: books and drawers.
>>>>
>>>> The subject of the last patches is clear enough (I hope).
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Pierre
>>>>
>>>> Pierre Morel (10):
>>>> s390x/cpus: Make absence of multithreading clear
>>>> s390x/cpu topology: core_id sets s390x CPU topology
>>>> s390x/cpu topology: reporting the CPU topology to the guest
>>>> hw/core: introducing drawer and books for s390x
>>>> s390x/cpu: reporting drawers and books topology to the guest
>>>> s390x/cpu_topology: resetting the Topology-Change-Report
>>>> s390x/cpu_topology: CPU topology migration
>>>> target/s390x: interception of PTF instruction
>>>> s390x/cpu_topology: activating CPU topology
>>>
>>>
>>> Do we really need a machine property? As far as I can see, old QEMU
>>> cannot activate the ctop facility with old and new kernel unless it
>>> enables CAP_S390_CPU_TOPOLOGY. I do get
>>> oldqemu .... -cpu z14,ctop=on
>>> qemu-system-s390x: Some features requested in the CPU model are not
>>> available in the configuration: ctop
>>>
>>> With the newer QEMU we can. So maybe we can simply have a topology (and
>>> then a cpu model feature) in new QEMUs and non in old. the cpu model
>>> would then also fence migration from enabled to disabled.
>>
>> OK, I can check this.
>> In this case migration with topology will be if I understand correctly:
>>
>> NEW_QEMU/old_machine <-> NEW_QEMU/old_machine OK
>> While
>> OLD_QEMU/old_machine <-> NEW_QEMU/old_machine KO
>> NEW_QEMU/old_machine <-> OLD_QEMU/old_machine KO
>
> I forgot to say that I mean in the examples above without using a flag.
>
> Of course using a flag like -ctop=off in NEW_QEMU/new_machine allows
> to migrate from and to old_machines in an old QEMU.
>
> Also I had the same behavior already in V9 by having a VMState without
> the creation of a machine property, a new cpu feature and a new cpu flag.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Is this something we can accept?
>>
>> regards,
>> Pierre
>>
>
--
Pierre Morel
IBM Lab Boeblingen
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-24 9:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-02 7:55 [PATCH v9 00/10] s390x: CPU Topology Pierre Morel
2022-09-02 7:55 ` [PATCH v9 01/10] s390x/cpus: Make absence of multithreading clear Pierre Morel
2022-09-05 11:32 ` Nico Boehr
2022-09-05 15:10 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-05 15:23 ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-09-05 15:42 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-27 9:44 ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-09-28 13:21 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-28 16:16 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-28 16:28 ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-10-11 7:21 ` Pierre Morel
2022-10-11 7:28 ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-09-28 18:11 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-10-10 17:20 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-02 7:55 ` [PATCH v9 02/10] s390x/cpu topology: core_id sets s390x CPU topology Pierre Morel
2022-09-05 18:11 ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-09-12 15:34 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-06 5:58 ` Nico Boehr
2022-09-12 15:40 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-27 12:03 ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-09-28 13:15 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-02 7:55 ` [PATCH v9 03/10] s390x/cpu topology: reporting the CPU topology to the guest Pierre Morel
2022-09-06 8:17 ` Nico Boehr
2022-09-28 10:03 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-06 11:49 ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-09-28 10:01 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-07 10:26 ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-09-28 9:07 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-02 7:55 ` [PATCH v9 04/10] hw/core: introducing drawer and books for s390x Pierre Morel
2022-09-06 8:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-09-28 9:04 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-28 9:06 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-02 7:55 ` [PATCH v9 05/10] s390x/cpu: reporting drawers and books topology to the guest Pierre Morel
2022-09-07 10:36 ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-09-28 8:55 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-02 7:55 ` [PATCH v9 06/10] s390x/cpu_topology: resetting the Topology-Change-Report Pierre Morel
2022-09-06 8:27 ` Nico Boehr
2022-09-28 8:35 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-08 7:57 ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-09-28 8:46 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-02 7:55 ` [PATCH v9 07/10] s390x/cpu_topology: CPU topology migration Pierre Morel
2022-09-08 18:04 ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-09-28 8:34 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-29 17:30 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-02 7:55 ` [PATCH v9 08/10] target/s390x: interception of PTF instruction Pierre Morel
2022-09-09 16:50 ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-09-28 13:34 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-02 7:55 ` [PATCH v9 09/10] s390x/cpu_topology: activating CPU topology Pierre Morel
2022-09-05 15:29 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-27 14:41 ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-09-28 8:15 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-02 7:55 ` [PATCH v9 10/10] docs/s390x: document s390x cpu topology Pierre Morel
2022-09-12 13:41 ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-09-28 8:19 ` Pierre Morel
2022-09-12 13:48 ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-09-12 14:38 ` [PATCH v9 00/10] s390x: CPU Topology Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-09-28 8:28 ` Pierre Morel
2022-11-16 16:51 ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-11-17 9:31 ` Pierre Morel
2022-11-17 16:38 ` Pierre Morel
2022-11-24 9:25 ` Pierre Morel [this message]
2022-11-27 10:50 ` Pierre Morel
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