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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>, Jurriaan <thunder7@xs4all.nl>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.11-rc2-mm1: SuperIO scx200 breakage
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:32:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d120d500050124113214195863@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050124223925.76cabedd@zanzibar.2ka.mipt.ru>

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:39:25 +0300, Evgeniy Polyakov
<johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:05:46 +0100
> Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 10:23:02PM +0300, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> > > On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:41:11 +0100
> > > Jurriaan <thunder7@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
> > > > Date: Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 09:43:36PM +0300
> > > > > On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:54:49 +0100
> > > > > Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It seems noone who reviewed the SuperIO patches noticed that there are
> > > > > > now two modules "scx200" in the kernel...
> > > > >
> > > > > They are almost mutually exlusive(SuperIO contains more advanced),
> > > > > so I do not see any problem here.
> > > > > Only one of them can be loaded in a time.
> > > > >
> > > > > So what does exactly bother you?
> > > > >
> > > > lsmod in bugreports giving unspecific results, for example.
> > >
> > > If you load scx200 from superio subsystem, then obviously you can not
> > > use old i2c/acb modules which require old scx200.
> > > And vice versa.
> > >
> > > One needs to load exactly what he wants.
> >
> > You did not understand what Jurriaan said:
> >
> > Even if it was working, "lsmod" would not be able to tell which of the
> > two modules was loaded.
> >
> > This would cause much headache for many people.
> 
> 
> Module is just a piece of code, or programm if someone may think.
> And there no problems when we type
> $ ps
> and see only "aterm", if someone wants to know what exactly means "aterm",
> one can run ps axufw.
> And even with the case of lsmod: one can see that scx200 will or will not
> depend on superio, and that will explain everything.
> 

There are so many problems and ambiguites with having non-unique
module names it is not even funny:
- when I modprobe scx200 what willI get?
- if I want to blacklist one of the modules (let's say hotplug) how do
I do that?
- lsmod (with everything else compiled in, possible?) - which one is loadded?

...etc, etc...

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-24 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 153+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-18  7:21 [PATCH] Some fixes for compat ioctl Andi Kleen
2005-01-18 10:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 10:45 ` [PATCH 1/5] compat_ioctl call seems to miss a security hook Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 19:22   ` Chris Wright
2005-01-20  0:28     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-20  0:43       ` Chris Wright
2005-01-20  1:06         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-20  1:16           ` Chris Wright
2005-01-20  1:42             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 10:48 ` [PATCH 2/5] socket ioctl fix (from Andi) Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 10:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-18 11:01     ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-18 10:52 ` [PATCH 3/5] make common ioctls apply for compat Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 10:57 ` [PATCH 4/5] reminder comment about register_ioctl32_conversion Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 11:04 ` [PATCH 5/5] symmetry between compat_ioctl and unlocked_ioctl Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-24 10:15   ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-24 10:36     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 11:17     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1: v4l-saa7134-module compile error Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 13:57       ` Gerd Knorr
2005-01-24 17:45         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-25 10:15           ` Gerd Knorr
2005-01-25 10:38             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 11:56     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Brice Goglin
2005-01-24 13:41       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Brice Goglin
2005-01-24 14:35         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Florian Bohrer
2005-01-24 18:52       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dave Jones
2005-01-24 20:44         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dave Jones
2005-01-24 21:31           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Brice Goglin
2005-01-25 19:38             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dave Jones
2005-01-25 19:58               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Brice Goglin
2005-01-25 20:29                 ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dave Jones
2005-01-24 12:12     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-24 20:36       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Karsten Keil
2005-01-24 23:26         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25  0:35           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Karsten Keil
2005-01-24 23:32         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-01-24 21:03       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-24 12:17     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-31 22:42       ` [patch] generic notification layer Robert Love
2005-02-07 11:57       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-07 17:30         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Robert Love
2005-02-07 21:02           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 John McCutchan
2005-01-24 12:25     ` [-mm patch] fix SuperIO compilation Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 12:34       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-24 13:04         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 13:56           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 14:14             ` [1/1] superio: remove unneded exports and make some functions static Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25  6:19               ` Greg KH
2005-01-24 12:48     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1: DVB compile error Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 23:56       ` [linux-dvb-maintainer] " Johannes Stezenbach
2005-01-24 13:52     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-24 14:24     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-24 14:58     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Benoit Boissinot
2005-01-24 15:11     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 [compile fix] Benoit Boissinot
2005-01-24 17:25       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 17:54     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1: SuperIO scx200 breakage Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 18:43       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 18:29         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 19:19           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 19:03             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 19:46               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 18:41         ` Jurriaan
2005-01-24 19:23           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 19:05             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 19:39               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 19:32                 ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2005-01-24 20:28                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-27 15:19         ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-27 16:21           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-27 23:12             ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-24 20:33       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-24 21:10         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 21:34       ` Greg KH
2005-01-24 21:47         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25  6:02           ` Greg KH
2005-01-25  7:11             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25 18:59             ` Jean Delvare
2005-01-25 21:39               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 21:40                 ` Jean Delvare
2005-01-25 22:35                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26  9:55                     ` Jean Delvare
2005-01-26 10:55                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 14:34                         ` Jean Delvare
2005-01-26 16:10                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 19:20                             ` Jean Delvare
2005-01-26 20:21                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 10:14                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-26 10:59                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 14:00                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 16:38                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 18:19                             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-26 19:27                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-27 10:20                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-27 11:53                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 18:06                         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-26 13:12                       ` Russell King
2005-01-26 20:01                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-24 18:58     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Benoit Boissinot
2005-01-24 19:09       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 19:44     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 - fix a typo in nfs3proc.c Benoit Boissinot
2005-01-24 20:24     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 - compile fix Benoit Boissinot
2005-01-24 20:26     ` [PATCH] move common compat ioctls to hash Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-25  6:17       ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-26  8:40         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-25  0:03     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1: fuse patch needs new libs Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-25  7:31       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-01-27 15:45       ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-27 15:56         ` Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-27 16:11           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-01-27 18:09       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25  1:01     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Brice Goglin
2005-01-25  1:30       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 (AE_AML_NO_OPERAND) Len Brown
2005-01-25 18:41       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Pavel Machek
2005-01-25 19:10         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Espen Fjellvær Olsen
2005-01-25 12:53     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25 14:11       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 14:23         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25 15:24           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 15:34             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-01-25 16:04               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 18:21                 ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Jörn Engel
2005-01-25 21:17                   ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26  2:20                     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Jörn Engel
2005-01-25 15:36             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Paulo Marques
2005-01-25 21:08               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 16:11             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-25 21:14               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26  4:57                 ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26  8:25                   ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 13:46                     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 14:59                       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 15:26                         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 15:54                           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 16:25                             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 16:46                               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 16:55                                 ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 17:39                                   ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 18:26                                     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 20:07                                       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 20:22                                         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-27 17:33                                           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 22:42             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-26  8:31               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 13:32                 ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 14:44                   ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 19:35       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Pavel Machek
2005-01-25 19:12     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Marcos D. Marado Torres
2005-01-25 23:07       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-26  2:40     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-26  2:40       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-26  4:44     ` [PATCH] ppc64: fix use kref for device_node refcounting Nathan Lynch
2005-01-27  6:18     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-27  9:14       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 William Lee Irwin III

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