From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
Cc: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [patch 09/28] Input: convert net/bluetooth to dynamic input_dev allocation
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:55:23 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d120d50005091513552688cd75@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050915202553.GA3977@midnight.suse.cz>
On 9/15/05, Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 02:22:34PM -0500, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > They are devices - class devices :). I have the following distinction
> > in my head - "normal" devices (bus devices) are real hardware devices
> > and their drivers need to do resource and/or power management. Class
> > devices represent virtual devices - some kind of abstraction - that
> > unify and combine "real" devices from several buses into one class.
>
> Yes. While input drivers do need to care about power management usually,
> the input device abstraction itself doesn't have to, which makes it
> indeed a special kind of a device.
>
Right. They just signal to underlying hardware driver when they are in
use (open), but the actual power management is left to the specific
bus/driver, not input core.
> I was always wondering whether the distinction between bus/class was
> needed, as the border isn't very clear.
>
Classes combine devices which are logically the same, i.e. they
perform similar functions. Buses combine devices that are perform
different functions but have similar hardware interface. For example a
network cards - it is a class. You can have network card sit on a PCI,
USB, ISA buses but for the rest of the kernel they are accesses
through netdev abstraction. At least this is my understanding of our
device model ;)
--
Dmitry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-15 20:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-15 7:01 [patch 00/28] RFC/RFT: Input - sysfs integration Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 01/28] I2O: remove class interface Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-27 0:03 ` Greg KH
2005-09-27 8:39 ` Markus Lidel
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 02/28] I2O: remove i2o_device_class Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-27 0:28 ` Greg KH
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 03/28] Driver core: allow nesting classes Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 04/28] Driver core: make parent class define subsystem Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 05/28] Driver core: pass interface to class intreface methods Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 06/28] Driver core: send hotplug event before adding class interfaces Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 07/28] Input: kill devfs references Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 08/28] Input: prepare to sysfs integration Dmitry Torokhov
2005-10-05 22:03 ` Greg KH
2005-10-05 22:17 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-10-05 22:55 ` Greg KH
2005-10-06 17:46 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-10-06 23:05 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-10-07 3:58 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-10-07 6:41 ` Al Viro
2005-10-07 6:49 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 09/28] Input: convert net/bluetooth to dynamic input_dev allocation Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:54 ` Marcel Holtmann
2005-09-15 14:22 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 14:41 ` Marcel Holtmann
2005-09-15 19:07 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-09-15 19:22 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 19:31 ` Greg KH
2005-09-15 19:52 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 20:25 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-09-15 20:55 ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2005-09-15 21:16 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 10/28] Input: convert drivers/macintosh " Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 11/28] Input: convert konicawc " Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 12/28] Input: convert onetouch " Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 13/28] drivers/input/mouse: convert " Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 14/28] drivers/input/keyboard: " Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 15/28] drivers/input/touchscreen: " Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 17/28] Input: convert ucb1x00-ts " Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 18/28] Input: convert sound/ppc/beep " Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 19/28] Input: convert sonypi " Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 20/28] Input: convert driver/input/misc " Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 22/28] drivers/media: convert " Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 23/28] Input: show sysfs path in /proc/bus/input/devices Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 24/28] Input: export input_dev data via sysfs attributes Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 25/28] input core: implement class hierachy Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 26/28] input core: remove custom-made hotplug handler Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 27/28] Input: convert input handlers to class interfaces Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:01 ` [patch 28/28] Input: convert to seq_file Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-15 7:59 ` [patch 00/28] RFC/RFT: Input - sysfs integration Marcel Holtmann
2005-09-15 14:27 ` Dmitry Torokhov
[not found] ` <20050915070304.070090000.dtor_core@ameritech.net>
2005-09-16 3:53 ` [patch 16/28] drivers/usb/input: convert to dynamic input_dev allocation Andrew Morton
2005-09-16 3:59 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-16 4:18 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-16 4:30 ` Dmitry Torokhov
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