From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Vijayanand Jitta <vijayanand.jitta@oss.qualcomm.com>,
"Joerg Roedel (AMD)" <joro@8bytes.org>,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Prakash Gupta <prakash.gupta@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Add support for contiguous hint bit
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2026 18:45:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d20d258d-d970-4ef1-bbb6-cdc83fc20c9d@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260715125039.GA50536@nvidia.com>
On 15/07/2026 1:50 pm, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 01:14:18PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
>
>> Conversely though, I really wouldn't want to have to maintain arm-smmu
>> supporting two completely different pagetable APIs simultaneously either :/
>
> Does arm-smmu era HW even support CONT?
Yes, it goes all the way back to ARMv7 LPAE, predating even SMMUv1, and
certainly at least Arm's implementations (MMU-400/401/500) can all make
meaningful use of it.
> AFAICR the biggest issue with arm-smmu was it using IO_PGTABLE_ARMV7S
> as well. I think it would be fine to implement all the unique LPAE
> features it needs in iommupt, I did most of them already.
>
> I do have an ARMV7S implementation for iommupt, but I did not solve
> the sub page problem. So while it is functionally working it is not
> usable since it wastes so much memory. That's a tricky problem to
> solve since the algorithms depend on the gather->freelist.
>
> I didn't spend any time trying to do anything about this as I was not
> intending to touch arm-smmu
Indeed between the irregular table sizes (before you even get to the
Mediatek shenanigans...), and the awkward GFP_DMA limitations and/or
reality that many of the systems using it really don't have memory to
waste, I'd have considered v7s pretty much terminally incompatible with
iommu_pages and the abstraction that iommupt is trying to be... :/
Thanks,
Robin.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-15 17:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-18 9:02 [PATCH] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Add support for contiguous hint bit Vijayanand Jitta
2026-06-19 19:40 ` Daniel Mentz
2026-06-25 5:47 ` Vijayanand Jitta
2026-07-03 16:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-07 23:04 ` Daniel Mentz
2026-07-07 23:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-15 5:55 ` Vijayanand Jitta
2026-07-15 11:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-15 12:03 ` Will Deacon
2026-07-15 12:14 ` Robin Murphy
2026-07-15 12:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-15 17:45 ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2026-07-15 18:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-15 12:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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