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From: "Arinzon, David" <darinzon@amazon.com>
To: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v8 net-next 4/5] net: ena: PHC stats through sysfs
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 15:39:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d3bd72e06fbb42698458c8d0ab81e6cd@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250306173142.GU1955273@unreal>

> > > > > > I've not been following previous versions of this patch, so i could 
> > > > > > be repeating questions already asked....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ena_adapter represents a netdev?
> > > > > >

Yes, ena_adapter represents a netdev.

> > > > > > /* adapter specific private data structure */ struct ena_adapter {
> > > > > >     struct ena_com_dev *ena_dev;
> > > > > >     /* OS defined structs */
> > > > > >     struct net_device *netdev;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So why are you not using the usual statistics interface for a netdev?
> > > > >
> > > > > I asked them to do this.
> > > > > They are using a PTP device as a pure clock. The netdev doesn't
> > > > > support any HW timestamping, so none of the stats are related to packets.
> > > >
> > > > So how intertwined is the PHC with the network device? Can it be
> > > > separated into a different driver? Moved into drivers/ptp?
> > > >

The PHC device is not a HW timestamping device but rather a PTP clock
that is integrated with the networking device under the same PCI device.
Enabling or disabling the ENA PHC requires reconfiguring the ENA network device.

> > > > We have already been asked if this means network drivers can be
> > > > configured via sysfs. Clearly we don't want that, so we want to
> > > > get this code out of drivers/net if possible.
> > >
> > > Is it good enough to move the relevant code to a ptp/ or phc/ dir
> > > under ...thernet/amazon/ena/ ? Moving it to ptp/ proper would
> > > require some weird abstractions, not sure if it's warranted?

We agree that relocating the PHC code to drivers/ptp would introduce unnecessary
abstractions and require synchronization mechanisms between drivers.

As with other ENA features, the PHC-related code is contained within
a dedicated file in the ethernet/amazon/ena/ directory.
Would this be an acceptable approach?

Thanks,
David

> > mtd devices have been doing this for decades. And the auxiliary bus
> > seems to be a reinvention of the mtd concepts.
> 
> No, it is not. MTD concepts are no different from standard
> register_to_other_subsystem practice, where driver stays in one subsystem
> to be used by another.
> 
> Auxillary bus is different in that it splits drivers to their logical parts and places
> them in right subsystems.
> 
> Thanks

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-26 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-04 19:04 [PATCH v8 net-next 0/5] PHC support in ENA driver David Arinzon
2025-03-04 19:05 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 1/5] net: ena: Add PHC support in the " David Arinzon
2025-03-04 19:05 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 2/5] net: ena: PHC silent reset David Arinzon
2025-03-04 19:05 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 3/5] net: ena: PHC enable through sysfs David Arinzon
2025-03-04 19:05 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 4/5] net: ena: PHC stats " David Arinzon
2025-03-04 21:07   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-03-04 22:58     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-05 15:33       ` Andrew Lunn
2025-03-06  2:36         ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-06  7:15           ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-03-06 15:40           ` Andrew Lunn
2025-03-06 17:31             ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-03-26 15:39               ` Arinzon, David [this message]
2025-03-04 19:05 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 5/5] net: ena: Add PHC documentation David Arinzon
2025-03-04 21:10   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-03-05 12:50     ` Arinzon, David
2025-03-05 12:59       ` [EXTERNAL] " David Woodhouse
2025-03-05 15:35         ` Andrew Lunn
2025-03-05 17:52           ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-03-26 15:32             ` Arinzon, David
2025-03-27 11:15               ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-03-27 12:01                 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-01  8:02     ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-01  8:46       ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-02 16:23         ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-04-02 19:38           ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-04-07  7:01             ` Arinzon, David
2025-04-07 14:02               ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-07 16:27                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-04-08 14:47                   ` Richard Cochran
2025-04-08 15:24                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-04-10  4:07                       ` Richard Cochran
2025-04-10 16:01                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-04 23:00 ` [PATCH v8 net-next 0/5] PHC support in ENA driver Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-05  6:34   ` Arinzon, David

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