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From: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: Yu Zhang <zhangyu1@linux.microsoft.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Vasant Hegde <vasant.hegde@amd.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Tested-by : Yi Lai" <yi1.lai@intel.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, security@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] iommu/sva: Invalidate KVA range on kernel TLB flush
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2025 10:08:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d3cd4427-58a3-417b-a409-81d31110faeb@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pk2b4xgxewxotp557osucliagmziv3erepsret4hbnxnvhff2n@p2gark4kdiqw>

On 7/29/25 01:36, Yu Zhang wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 11:01:12AM +0800, Baolu Lu wrote:
>> On 7/11/25 16:17, Yu Zhang wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 08:26:06AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>>> On 7/10/25 06:22, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>>>>> Why does this matter? We flush the CPU TLB in a bunch of different ways,
>>>>>> _especially_ when it's being done for kernel mappings. For example,
>>>>>> __flush_tlb_all() is a non-ranged kernel flush which has a completely
>>>>>> parallel implementation with flush_tlb_kernel_range(). Call sites that
>>>>>> use_it_ are unaffected by the patch here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Basically, if we're only worried about vmalloc/vfree freeing page
>>>>>> tables, then this patch is OK. If the problem is bigger than that, then
>>>>>> we need a more comprehensive patch.
>>>>> I think we are worried about any place that frees page tables.
>>>> The two places that come to mind are the remove_memory() code and
>>>> __change_page_attr().
>>>>
>>>> The remove_memory() gunk is in arch/x86/mm/init_64.c. It has a few sites
>>>> that do flush_tlb_all(). Now that I'm looking at it, there look to be
>>>> some races between freeing page tables pages and flushing the TLB. But,
>>>> basically, if you stick to the sites in there that do flush_tlb_all()
>>>> after free_pagetable(), you should be good.
>>>>
>>>> As for the __change_page_attr() code, I think the only spot you need to
>>>> hit is cpa_collapse_large_pages() and maybe the one in
>>>> __split_large_page() as well.
>>>>
>>>> This is all disturbingly ad-hoc, though. The remove_memory() code needs
>>>> fixing and I'll probably go try to bring some order to the chaos in the
>>>> process of fixing it up. But that's a separate problem than this IOMMU fun.
>>>>
>>> Could we consider to split the flush_tlb_kernel_range() into 2 different
>>> versions:
>>> - the one which only flushes the CPU TLB
>>> - the one which flushes the CPU paging structure cache and then notifies
>>>     IOMMU to do the same(e.g., in pud_free_pmd_page()/pmd_free_pte_page())?
>>  From the perspective of an IOMMU, there is no need to split. IOMMU SVA
>> only allows the device to access user-space memory with user
>> permission. Access to kernel address space with privileged permission
>> is not allowed. Therefore, the IOMMU subsystem only needs a callback to
>> invalidate the paging structure cache.
> Thanks Baolu.
> 
> Indeed. That's why I was wondering if we could split flush_tlb_kernel_range()
> into 2 versions - one used only after a kernal virtual address range is
> unmapped, and another one used after a kernel paging structure is freed.
> Only the 2nd one needs to notify the IOMMU subsystem.

Yeah! That sounds better.

Thanks,
baolu

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-29  2:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-09  6:28 [PATCH v2 1/1] iommu/sva: Invalidate KVA range on kernel TLB flush Lu Baolu
2025-07-09 15:29 ` Dave Hansen
2025-07-10  2:14   ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-10  2:55     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-10 12:53     ` Dave Hansen
2025-07-10 13:22       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-10 15:26         ` Dave Hansen
2025-07-11  2:46           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-11  2:54           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-11  8:17           ` Yu Zhang
2025-07-24  3:01             ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-28 17:36               ` Yu Zhang
2025-07-29  2:08                 ` Baolu Lu [this message]
2025-07-24  3:06           ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-11  2:49         ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-10  3:02 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-10  8:11   ` Yu Zhang
2025-07-10  8:15     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-10  9:37       ` Yu Zhang
2025-07-10 13:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-10 15:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-11  3:09     ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-11  8:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-16 11:57     ` David Laight
2025-07-17  1:47       ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-11  3:00   ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-11  4:01     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-07-11  8:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-11 11:58       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-15  5:55       ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-15 12:25         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-16  6:34           ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-16 12:08             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-17  1:43               ` Baolu Lu
2025-07-17 11:50                 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-07-11 11:54     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-16 10:54 ` Yi Liu
2025-07-17  1:51   ` Baolu Lu

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