From: Martin Uecker <ma.uecker@gmail.com>
To: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC v5 6/7] sprintf: Add [v]sprintf_array()
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 08:24:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d43ebab47ee70cd11bddf78c424ec341b4c797cf.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202507142211.F1E0730A@keescook>
Am Montag, dem 14.07.2025 um 22:19 -0700 schrieb Kees Cook:
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 10:58:56AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > struct seq_buf s;
> > seq_buf_init(&s, buf, szie);
>
> And because some folks didn't like this "declaration that requires a
> function call", we even added:
>
> DECLARE_SEQ_BUF(s, 32);
>
> to do it in 1 line. :P
>
> I would love to see more string handling replaced with seq_buf.
Why not have?
struct seq_buf s = SEQ_BUF(32);
So the kernel has safe abstractions, there are just not used enough.
Do you also have a string view abstraction? I found this really
useful as basic building block for safe string handling, and
equally important to a string builder type such as seq_buf.
The string builder is for safely construcing new strings, the
string view is for safely accessing parts of existing strings.
Also what I found really convenient and useful in this context
was to have an accessor macro that expose the buffer as a
regular array cast to the correct size:
*( (char(*)[(x)->N]) (x)->data )
(put into statement expressions to avoid double evaluation)
instead of simply returning a char*
You can then access the array directly with [] which then can be
bounds checked with UBsan, one can measure its length with sizeof,
and one can also let it decay and get a char* to pass it to legacy
code (and to some degree this can be protected by BDOS).
Martin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-15 6:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-05 20:33 [RFC v1 0/3] Add and use seprintf() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-05 20:33 ` [RFC v1 1/3] vsprintf: Add [v]seprintf(), [v]stprintf() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-05 20:40 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-06 0:06 ` kernel test robot
2025-07-07 9:47 ` Alexander Potapenko
2025-07-07 14:59 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-05 20:33 ` [RFC v1 2/3] stacktrace, stackdepot: Add seprintf()-like variants of functions Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-06 0:49 ` kernel test robot
2025-07-05 20:33 ` [RFC v1 3/3] mm: Use seprintf() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-05 21:54 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-06 0:17 ` kernel test robot
2025-07-06 17:37 ` [RFC v2 0/5] Add and use " Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-06 17:37 ` [RFC v2 1/5] vsprintf: Add [v]seprintf(), [v]stprintf() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-06 17:37 ` [RFC v2 2/5] stacktrace, stackdepot: Add seprintf()-like variants of functions Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-06 17:37 ` [RFC v2 3/5] mm: Use seprintf() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 5:10 ` kernel test robot
2025-07-06 17:37 ` [RFC v2 4/5] array_size.h: Add ENDOF() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-06 17:37 ` [RFC v2 5/5] mm: Fix benign off-by-one bugs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 5:06 ` [RFC v3 0/7] Add and use seprintf() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 5:06 ` [RFC v3 1/7] vsprintf: Add [v]seprintf(), [v]stprintf() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 5:06 ` [RFC v3 2/7] stacktrace, stackdepot: Add seprintf()-like variants of functions Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 5:06 ` [RFC v3 3/7] mm: Use seprintf() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 7:44 ` Marco Elver
2025-07-07 14:39 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 14:58 ` Marco Elver
2025-07-07 18:51 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 19:08 ` Marco Elver
2025-07-07 20:53 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 19:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-07 19:35 ` Al Viro
2025-07-07 20:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-07 20:29 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 20:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-07 21:05 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 21:26 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 22:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-08 2:20 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-12 20:58 ` Christopher Bazley
2025-07-14 7:57 ` Christopher Bazley
2025-07-07 5:06 ` [RFC v3 4/7] array_size.h: Add ENDOF() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 5:06 ` [RFC v3 5/7] mm: Fix benign off-by-one bugs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 7:46 ` Marco Elver
2025-07-07 7:53 ` Michal Hocko
2025-07-07 14:42 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 15:12 ` Michal Hocko
2025-07-07 15:29 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 5:06 ` [RFC v3 6/7] sprintf: Add [V]STPRINTF() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 5:06 ` [RFC v3 7/7] mm: Use [V]STPRINTF() to avoid specifying the array size Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-07 5:11 ` [RFC v3 0/7] Add and use seprintf() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 2:47 ` [RFC v4 0/7] Add and use sprintf_end() " Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 2:47 ` alx-0049r2 - add seprintf() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 2:48 ` [RFC v4 1/7] vsprintf: Add [v]sprintf_end() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 2:48 ` [RFC v4 2/7] stacktrace, stackdepot: Add sprintf_end()-like variants of functions Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 2:48 ` [RFC v4 3/7] mm: Use sprintf_end() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 2:48 ` [RFC v4 4/7] array_size.h: Add ENDOF() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 2:48 ` [RFC v4 5/7] mm: Fix benign off-by-one bugs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 2:48 ` [RFC v4 6/7] sprintf: Add [V]SPRINTF_END() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 15:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-10 18:30 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:21 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 22:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-10 2:49 ` [RFC v4 7/7] mm: Use [V]SPRINTF_END() to avoid specifying the array size Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:30 ` [RFC v5 0/7] Add and use sprintf_{end,array}() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:30 ` [RFC v5 1/7] vsprintf: Add [v]sprintf_end() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:30 ` [RFC v5 2/7] stacktrace, stackdepot: Add sprintf_end()-like variants of functions Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:30 ` [RFC v5 3/7] mm: Use sprintf_end() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:31 ` [RFC v5 4/7] array_size.h: Add ENDOF() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:31 ` [RFC v5 5/7] mm: Fix benign off-by-one bugs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:31 ` [RFC v5 6/7] sprintf: Add [v]sprintf_array() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 21:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-10 23:23 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-10 23:24 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 0:19 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 17:43 ` David Laight
2025-07-11 19:17 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 19:21 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 6:05 ` Martin Uecker
2025-07-11 6:19 ` Martin Uecker
2025-07-11 17:45 ` David Laight
2025-07-11 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-07-11 19:24 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-07-15 5:19 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-15 6:24 ` Martin Uecker [this message]
2025-07-17 23:44 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-15 7:08 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-17 23:47 ` Kees Cook
2025-07-18 0:56 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 18:01 ` Martin Uecker
2025-07-10 21:31 ` [RFC v5 7/7] mm: Use [v]sprintf_array() to avoid specifying the array size Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 1:56 ` [RFC v6 0/8] Add and use sprintf_{end,trunc,array}() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 1:56 ` [RFC v6 1/8] vsprintf: Add [v]sprintf_trunc() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 1:56 ` [RFC v6 2/8] vsprintf: Add [v]sprintf_end() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 1:56 ` [RFC v6 3/8] sprintf: Add [v]sprintf_array() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 1:56 ` [RFC v6 4/8] stacktrace, stackdepot: Add sprintf_end()-like variants of functions Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 1:57 ` [RFC v6 5/8] mm: Use sprintf_end() instead of less ergonomic APIs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 1:57 ` [RFC v6 6/8] array_size.h: Add ENDOF() Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 1:57 ` [RFC v6 7/8] mm: Fix benign off-by-one bugs Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-11 1:57 ` [RFC v6 8/8] mm: Use [v]sprintf_array() to avoid specifying the array size Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-08 6:43 ` [RFC v1 0/3] Add and use seprintf() instead of less ergonomic APIs Rasmus Villemoes
2025-07-08 11:36 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-07-08 13:51 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-07-08 16:14 ` Alejandro Colomar
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