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From: Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>
To: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
Cc: hannes@cmpxchg.org, hughd@google.com, mhocko@suse.com,
	roman.gushchin@linux.dev, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, david@redhat.com,
	lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
	imran.f.khan@oracle.com, kamalesh.babulal@oracle.com,
	axelrasmussen@google.com, yuanchu@google.com, weixugc@google.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 23/26] mm: vmscan: prepare for reparenting MGLRU folios
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2025 23:40:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d94fe146-5cc6-4aa2-bd7f-8ca2a12e5457@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aScFNZjGficdjnvD@hyeyoo>



On 11/26/25 9:48 PM, Harry Yoo wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 09:58:36PM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
>> From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
>>
>> Similar to traditional LRU folios, in order to solve the dying memcg
>> problem, we also need to reparenting MGLRU folios to the parent memcg when
>> memcg offline.
>>
>> However, there are the following challenges:
>>
>> 1. Each lruvec has between MIN_NR_GENS and MAX_NR_GENS generations, the
>>     number of generations of the parent and child memcg may be different,
>>     so we cannot simply transfer MGLRU folios in the child memcg to the
>>     parent memcg as we did for traditional LRU folios.
>> 2. The generation information is stored in folio->flags, but we cannot
>>     traverse these folios while holding the lru lock, otherwise it may
>>     cause softlockup.
>> 3. In walk_update_folio(), the gen of folio and corresponding lru size
>>     may be updated, but the folio is not immediately moved to the
>>     corresponding lru list. Therefore, there may be folios of different
>>     generations on an LRU list.
>> 4. In lru_gen_del_folio(), the generation to which the folio belongs is
>>     found based on the generation information in folio->flags, and the
>>     corresponding LRU size will be updated. Therefore, we need to update
>>     the lru size correctly during reparenting, otherwise the lru size may
>>     be updated incorrectly in lru_gen_del_folio().
>>
>> Finally, this patch chose a compromise method, which is to splice the lru
>> list in the child memcg to the lru list of the same generation in the
>> parent memcg during reparenting. And in order to ensure that the parent
>> memcg has the same generation, we need to increase the generations in the
>> parent memcg to the MAX_NR_GENS before reparenting.
>>
>> Of course, the same generation has different meanings in the parent and
>> child memcg, this will cause confusion in the hot and cold information of
>> folios. But other than that, this method is simple enough, the lru size
>> is correct, and there is no need to consider some concurrency issues (such
>> as lru_gen_del_folio()).
>>
>> To prepare for the above work, this commit implements the specific
>> functions, which will be used during reparenting.
>>
>> Suggested-by: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
>> Suggested-by: Imran Khan <imran.f.khan@oracle.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
>> ---
>>   include/linux/mmzone.h | 16 ++++++++
>>   mm/vmscan.c            | 86 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>   2 files changed, 102 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
>> index 7aa8e1472d10d..3ee7fb96b8aeb 100644
>> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
>> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
>> @@ -4468,6 +4468,92 @@ void lru_gen_soft_reclaim(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, int nid)
>>   		lru_gen_rotate_memcg(lruvec, MEMCG_LRU_HEAD);
>>   }
>>   
>> +bool recheck_lru_gen_max_memcg(struct mem_cgroup *memcg)
>> +{
>> +	int nid;
>> +
>> +	for_each_node(nid) {
>> +		struct lruvec *lruvec = get_lruvec(memcg, nid);
>> +		int type;
>> +
>> +		for (type = 0; type < ANON_AND_FILE; type++) {
>> +			if (get_nr_gens(lruvec, type) != MAX_NR_GENS)
>> +				return false;
>> +		}
>> +	}
>> +
>> +	return true;
>> +}
>> +
>> +/*
>> + * We need to ensure that the folios of child memcg can be reparented to the
>> + * same gen of the parent memcg, so the gens of the parent memcg needed be
>> + * incremented to the MAX_NR_GENS before reparenting.
>> + */
>> +void max_lru_gen_memcg(struct mem_cgroup *memcg)
>> +{
>> +	int nid;
>> +
>> +	for_each_node(nid) {
>> +		struct lruvec *lruvec = get_lruvec(memcg, nid);
>> +		int type;
>> +
> 
> I was testing this series and observed two warnings...
> 
>> +		for (type = 0; type < ANON_AND_FILE; type++) {
>> +			while (get_nr_gens(lruvec, type) < MAX_NR_GENS) {
>> +				DEFINE_MAX_SEQ(lruvec);
>> +
>> +				inc_max_seq(lruvec, max_seq, mem_cgroup_swappiness(memcg));
>> +				cond_resched();
> 
> Warning 1) Here we increment max_seq but we skip updating mm_state->seq.
> (try_to_inc_max_seq() iterates the mm list and update mm_state->seq after
> an iteration, but since we directly call inc_max_seq(), we don't update it)
> 
> When mm_state->seq is more than one generation behind walk->seq, a warning is
> triggered in iterate_mm_list():
> 
>          VM_WARN_ON_ONCE(mm_state->seq + 1 < walk->max_seq);

The mm_state->seq is just to record the completion of a full traversal
of mm_list. If we simply delete this warning, it may cause this judgment
in iterate_mm_list to become invalid:

         if (walk->seq <= mm_state->seq)
		goto done;

So it seems we can manually increase mm_state->seq during reparenting to
avoid this warning.

However, we cannot directly call iterate_mm_list_nowalk() because we do
not want to reset mm_state->head and mm_state->tail to NULL. Otherwise,
we wouldn't be able to continue iterating over the mm_list.

> 
> Warning 2) In try_to_inc_max_seq(), the last walker of mm list
> is supposed to succeed to increment max_seq by calling inc_max_seq():
> 
>          if (success) {
>                   success = inc_max_seq(lruvec, seq, swappiness);
>                   WARN_ON_ONCE(!success);
>           }
> 
> But with this patch it may observe the max_seq is already advanced due to
> reparenting and thus inc_max_seq() returns false, triggering the warning.

After we correct the warning above, we will satisfy this condition in
iterate_mm_list():

         if (walk->seq <= mm_state->seq)
		goto done;

thus returning false, and avoiding triggering this warning.

> 
> I'm learning MGLRU internals to see whether we can simply remove the warnings
> or if we need to do something to advance max_seq without actually iterating
> over the mm list.

So IIUC, we can simple increase mm_state->seq during reparenting to
fix these warnings.

> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-01 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-28 13:58 [PATCH v1 00/26] Eliminate Dying Memory Cgroup Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 01/26] mm: memcontrol: remove dead code of checking parent memory cgroup Qi Zheng
2025-11-07  1:40   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-20  9:07   ` Chen Ridong
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 02/26] mm: workingset: use folio_lruvec() in workingset_refault() Qi Zheng
2025-11-07  1:55   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 03/26] mm: rename unlock_page_lruvec_irq and its variants Qi Zheng
2025-11-07  2:03   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-20 12:27   ` Chen Ridong
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 04/26] mm: vmscan: refactor move_folios_to_lru() Qi Zheng
2025-11-07  5:11   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-07  6:41     ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-07 13:20       ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-08  6:32         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-10  2:13           ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-10  4:30             ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-10  5:43               ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-10  6:11                 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-10 16:47                 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11  0:42                   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11  3:04                   ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11  3:16                     ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11  3:23                       ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11  8:49                       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-11 16:44                         ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-12  7:49                           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-12  8:46                             ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-12  8:54                               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-12 15:45                           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-11  3:17                     ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11  3:24                       ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-07  7:18     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 05/26] mm: memcontrol: allocate object cgroup for non-kmem case Qi Zheng
2025-11-17  8:02   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-21  3:58   ` Chen Ridong
2025-11-21  8:17     ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 06/26] mm: memcontrol: return root object cgroup for root memory cgroup Qi Zheng
2025-11-17  9:17   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-17  9:41     ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-18 11:31       ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-18 11:28     ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-18 12:11       ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-19  7:24         ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-19  7:42           ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-18 12:12       ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-19  6:40         ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 07/26] mm: memcontrol: prevent memory cgroup release in get_mem_cgroup_from_folio() Qi Zheng
2025-11-19  8:06   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-20 13:32     ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 08/26] buffer: prevent memory cgroup release in folio_alloc_buffers() Qi Zheng
2025-11-19  8:10   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 09/26] writeback: prevent memory cgroup release in writeback module Qi Zheng
2025-11-19  9:18   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 10/26] mm: memcontrol: prevent memory cgroup release in count_memcg_folio_events() Qi Zheng
2025-11-19  9:21   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 11/26] mm: page_io: prevent memory cgroup release in page_io module Qi Zheng
2025-11-19  9:26   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-20 13:34     ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 12/26] mm: migrate: prevent memory cgroup release in folio_migrate_mapping() Qi Zheng
2025-11-19 10:00   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 13/26] mm: mglru: prevent memory cgroup release in mglru Qi Zheng
2025-11-19 10:13   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-20 13:39     ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 14/26] mm: memcontrol: prevent memory cgroup release in mem_cgroup_swap_full() Qi Zheng
2025-11-20  7:51   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 15/26] mm: workingset: prevent memory cgroup release in lru_gen_eviction() Qi Zheng
2025-11-20  8:26   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 16/26] mm: thp: prevent memory cgroup release in folio_split_queue_lock{_irqsave}() Qi Zheng
2025-11-20  8:53   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 17/26] mm: workingset: prevent lruvec release in workingset_refault() Qi Zheng
2025-11-20  9:40   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 18/26] mm: zswap: prevent lruvec release in zswap_folio_swapin() Qi Zheng
2025-11-20  9:42   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 19/26] mm: swap: prevent lruvec release in swap module Qi Zheng
2025-11-20  9:52   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-20 13:41     ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 20/26] mm: workingset: prevent lruvec release in workingset_activation() Qi Zheng
2025-11-20  9:54   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 21/26] mm: memcontrol: prepare for reparenting LRU pages for lruvec lock Qi Zheng
2025-11-04  6:49   ` kernel test robot
2025-11-04  8:59     ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-21  3:15   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-21  8:01     ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 22/26] mm: vmscan: prepare for reparenting traditional LRU folios Qi Zheng
2025-11-21 10:11   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 23/26] mm: vmscan: prepare for reparenting MGLRU folios Qi Zheng
2025-11-25  9:55   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-26  2:44     ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-26 13:48   ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-27  3:48     ` Qi Zheng
2025-12-01 15:40     ` Qi Zheng [this message]
2025-12-01 21:50       ` Yuanchu Xie
2025-12-02  3:04         ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 24/26] mm: memcontrol: refactor memcg_reparent_objcgs() Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 25/26] mm: memcontrol: eliminate the problem of dying memory cgroup for LRU folios Qi Zheng
2025-11-14 17:56   ` Michal Koutný
2025-11-20 11:56   ` Chen Ridong
2025-11-20 13:45     ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 13:58 ` [PATCH v1 26/26] mm: lru: add VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_FOLIO to lru maintenance helpers Qi Zheng
2025-10-28 20:58 ` [syzbot ci] Re: Eliminate Dying Memory Cgroup syzbot ci
2025-10-29  0:22   ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-29  0:25     ` syzbot ci
2025-10-29  3:12     ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-29  7:53 ` [PATCH v1 00/26] " Michal Hocko
2025-10-29  8:05   ` Qi Zheng
2025-10-31 10:35     ` Michal Hocko
2025-11-03  3:33       ` Qi Zheng

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