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From: ambx1@neo.rr.com
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: James Bruce <bruce@andrew.cmu.edu>,
	David Weinehall <tao@acc.umu.se>,
	Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Marc Ballarin <Ballarin.Marc@gmx.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Power consumption HZ100, HZ250, HZ1000: new numbers
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 11:20:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dbb91149e.1149edbb9@columbus.rr.com> (raw)



----- Original Message -----
From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Date: Monday, August 1, 2005 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: Power consumption HZ100, HZ250, HZ1000: new numbers

> On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 12:18:18PM -0400, James Bruce wrote:
> > 
> > The tradeoff is a realistic 4.4% power savings vs a 300% increase 
> in the 
> > minimum sleep period.  A user will see zero power savings if they 
> have a 
> > USB mouse (probably 99% of desktops).  On top of that, we can 
> throw in 
> > Con's disturbing AV benchmark results (1).  As a result, some of 
> us 
> > don't think 250HZ is a great tradeoff to make 
> _for_the_default_value_.
> Most laptops (including mine, a Thinkpad T40) use a PS/2 mouse.  So in
> the places where power consumption savins matters most, it's usually
> quite possible to function without needing any USB devices.  The 90%
> figure isn't at all right; in fact, it may be that over 90% of the
> laptops still use PS/2 mice and keyboards.
> 
>                                        	- Ted

Also, my understanding was that when we properly support usb suspend,
this won't be an issue anyway for much usb hardware.  I think it's
possible to put some mice to sleep when there isn't any motion and
then wakeup later.

4.4% savings may not be much, but these things do add up.  For a
laptop's workload, I think this is worth it.

Thanks,
Adam


             reply	other threads:[~2005-08-03 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-03 15:20 ambx1 [this message]
2005-08-03 16:47 ` Power consumption HZ100, HZ250, HZ1000: new numbers James Bruce
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-07-29 22:49 Marc Ballarin
2005-07-29 23:15 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 10:06   ` Marc Ballarin
2005-07-30 18:05     ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 18:18       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-07-30 18:14         ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 18:35         ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01 20:00         ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 19:51       ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-30 20:04         ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 20:10           ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 20:21             ` James Bruce
2005-07-31 21:10               ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 21:41                 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31 21:57                   ` James Bruce
2005-07-31 22:32                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 23:20                     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-08-01  1:59                     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-08-02  9:08                   ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-07-31 21:54                 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31 22:02                 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31 22:18                   ` James Bruce
2005-07-31 22:07                 ` Jim Crilly
2005-07-31 22:36                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 22:39                     ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01  3:49                     ` Jim Crilly
2005-08-01  7:26                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-01 18:16                         ` Jim Crilly
2005-08-10 18:49                   ` Bill Davidsen
2005-07-31 22:12                 ` James Bruce
2005-07-31 22:47                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 23:23                     ` Lee Revell
2005-07-31 23:29                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-07-31 23:53                         ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01  7:28                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-10 19:00                           ` Bill Davidsen
2005-08-01  6:19                       ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-08-01 16:07                         ` Jan Knutar
2005-08-01 18:45                           ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02  9:13                         ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-08-02 14:58                           ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01  7:44                       ` David Weinehall
2005-08-01 16:18                         ` James Bruce
2005-08-01 19:27                           ` Lee Revell
2005-08-01 20:42                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-08-02  4:50                             ` James Bruce
2005-08-02 13:10                               ` Stephen Clark
2005-08-02 14:02                                 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 14:12                                   ` Jens Axboe
2005-08-02 17:06                                     ` Folkert van Heusden
2005-08-02 17:45                                       ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-08-02 17:55                                         ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 14:15                                   ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-02 14:20                                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-08-02 14:22                                     ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 15:18                                     ` Joel Jaeggli
2005-08-03  8:53                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-02 14:43                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-08-02 14:52                                     ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 19:26                                       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-08-02 15:42                                 ` James Bruce
2005-08-02 15:58                                   ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 17:02                                     ` Prakash Punnoor
2005-08-02 16:08                                   ` Ondrej Zary
2005-08-05  6:39                                     ` James Bruce
2005-08-11 19:22                                       ` Ondrej Zary
2005-08-03  9:19                               ` Hans Kristian Rosbach
2005-08-03 13:57                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-08-04 12:52                                   ` Hans Kristian Rosbach
2005-08-02  6:45                           ` Tony Lindgren
2005-08-02 11:23                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-02 14:08                             ` Lee Revell
2005-08-02 14:31                               ` Roman Zippel
2005-08-02 11:25                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-02 14:07                             ` Lee Revell
2005-08-03 17:13                               ` Stephen Ray
2005-08-03 19:12                                 ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 20:08         ` Lee Revell
2005-07-30 10:06 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-10 19:08   ` Bill Davidsen

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