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From: Jiayuan Chen <jiayuan.chen@linux.dev>
To: Jason Xing <kerneljasonxing@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 00/14] net: annotate data-races around sysctl knobs
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2026 11:33:09 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dbdb9385-89cd-4e4f-bfb8-b72510e8801b@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL+tcoDvFNAZubOjw9+Z1eyaVeiBzt_Xg3KMNucY879bg-ZLow@mail.gmail.com>


On 11/9/26 11:11 AM, Jason Xing wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2026 at 10:55 AM Jiayuan Chen <jiayuan.chen@linux.dev> wrote:
>> While testing the recent sysctl range fixes I noticed that a lot of our
>> sysctl knobs are read with plain loads while the handlers update them
>> with WRITE_ONCE() and no lock, so KCSAN reports them as data races. I
>> then used an LLM to go through every ctl_table under net/ and list the
>> readers that were left behind. This series annotates them with
>> READ_ONCE(), and adds WRITE_ONCE() to a few custom handlers and netlink
>> paths that store to the same fields with plain writes. Most of it is a
>> plain READ_ONCE() at each read; where a function reads the same knob
>> twice to make one decision, it now reads it once into a local, so the
>> comparison and the value it acts on cannot come from two different
>> writes.
>>
>> There are no Fixes tags. Done one knob per patch this would be well over
>> a hundred commits, so I grouped them by subsystem and feature instead to
>> keep the review manageable. If maintainers prefer, I can split it up
>> further with a Fixes tag on each one, as several smaller series.
> Over the last year, I've been thinking about the annotation stuff
> especially around sysctls, which, I suppose, shouldn't actually affect
> the real workload but does affect the outcome of the syzbot.
>
> Out of sheer curiosity, my question would be what is the point of
> trying to change all of them? Or what kind of benefits can we get from
> the big series?


Three things:

1. A plain load may be emitted twice by the compiler. ip_error() compares
peer->rate_tokens against ip_rt_error_cost and then subtracts it again;
if the sysctl changes in between, the u32 wraps. A few readers have that
shape and now read the knob once into a local.

2. Tearing is not involved here, all the fields are at most word sized.

3. The rest is the memory model: a lockless read of a field written with
WRITE_ONCE() is a data race unless it is marked
(tools/memory-model/Documentation/access-marking.txt). That is what KCSAN
reports, and why most of the series is plain READ_ONCE().


I think the benefit is doing it in one pass.



  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-09  3:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-09  2:51 [PATCH net-next 00/14] net: annotate data-races around sysctl knobs Jiayuan Chen
2026-11-09  2:52 ` [PATCH net-next 01/14] ipv4: annotate data-races around ip_rt_* sysctls Jiayuan Chen
2026-11-10  3:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-10  5:53   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-09  2:52 ` [PATCH net-next 02/14] inet: frags: annotate data-races around fqdir->timeout and fqdir->max_dist Jiayuan Chen
2026-11-10  3:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09  2:52 ` [PATCH net-next 03/14] ipv6: annotate data-races around addrconf sysctls Jiayuan Chen
2026-11-10  3:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09  2:52 ` [PATCH net-next 04/14] ipv6: annotate data-races around icmpv6 reply sysctls Jiayuan Chen
2026-11-10  3:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09  2:52 ` [PATCH net-next 05/14] calipso: annotate data-races around cache sysctls Jiayuan Chen
2026-11-10  3:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-10  5:53   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-09  2:52 ` [PATCH net-next 06/14] sctp: annotate data-races around sctp sysctls Jiayuan Chen
2026-11-10  3:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-10  5:53   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-09  2:52 ` [PATCH net-next 07/14] mptcp: annotate data-races around pernet sysctls Jiayuan Chen
2026-11-10  3:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-10 11:28   ` Matthieu Baerts
2026-11-09  2:52 ` [PATCH net-next 08/14] rds: annotate data-races around core rds sysctls Jiayuan Chen
2026-11-10  3:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09  2:52 ` [PATCH net-next 09/14] netfilter: conntrack: annotate data-races around conntrack sysctls Jiayuan Chen
2026-11-10  3:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09  2:52 ` [PATCH net-next 10/14] netfilter: bridge: annotate data-races around br_netfilter and nf_log sysctls Jiayuan Chen
2026-11-10  3:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-10  5:53   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-09  2:52 ` [PATCH net-next 11/14] ipvs: annotate data-races around lblc_expiration and lblcr_expiration Jiayuan Chen
2026-11-10  3:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09  2:52 ` [PATCH net-next 12/14] net/smc: annotate data-races around smc sysctls Jiayuan Chen
2026-11-10  3:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-12  4:54   ` Dust Li
2026-11-09  2:52 ` [PATCH net-next 13/14] netfilter: conntrack: annotate data-races around timeout and tcp sysctls Jiayuan Chen
2026-11-10  3:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09  2:52 ` [PATCH net-next 14/14] netfilter: cttimeout: annotate data-races around the default timeouts Jiayuan Chen
2026-11-10  3:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-10  5:53   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-09  3:11 ` [PATCH net-next 00/14] net: annotate data-races around sysctl knobs Jason Xing
2026-11-09  3:33   ` Jiayuan Chen [this message]
2026-11-09  6:52     ` Jason Xing
2026-11-09  4:59 ` MPTCP CI

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