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From: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
To: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Cc: "Wang, Wei W" <wei.w.wang@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Li, Xiaoyao" <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	"Christopherson,, Sean" <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] perf/x86/intel/pt: Introduce and export pt_get_curr_event()
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 14:08:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e1327377-8e82-56a2-25e5-2ba91f2eec42@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALMp9eTG7EbRv_fnQpDMQ3YUjYANgu=6QwVj_ACgHnK-Mhk39Q@mail.gmail.com>



On 2022-09-26 1:24 p.m., Jim Mattson wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 9:55 AM Liang, Kan <kan.liang@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2022-09-22 10:42 a.m., Wang, Wei W wrote:
>>> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 10:10 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 01:59:53PM +0000, Wang, Wei W wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 9:35 PM, Peter Zijlstra
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 12:58:49PM +0000, Wang, Wei W wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Add a function to expose the current running PT event to users.
>>>>>>> One usage is in KVM, it needs to get and disable the running host
>>>>>>> PT event before VMEnter to the guest and resumes the event after
>>>> VMexit to host.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You cannot just kill a host event like that. If there is a host
>>>>>> event, the guest looses out.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK. The intention was to pause the event (that only profiles host
>>>>> info) when switching to guest, and resume when switching back to host.
>>>>
>>>> If the even doesn't profile guest context, then yes. If it does profile guest
>>>> context, you can't.
>>>
>>> Seems better to add this one:
>>
>> If the guest host mode is enabled, I think the PT driver should not
>> allow the perf tool to create a host event with !exclude_guest.
> 
> While I agree that guest events should generally have priority over
> host events, this is not consistent with the way "normal" PMU events
> are handled.
Only when the two events try to access a resource at the same time, we
have to decide whether priority an event or share between events. But I
don't think this is the case here.

From my understanding of the host-guest mode, the host PT event never
traces the guest no matter whether the guest enables PT. So when
VM-entry, there is only a guest PT event or no event. If so, I think the
perf tool should warn the user if they try to create a host event with
!exclude_guest, since the host event never traces a guest.


Thanks,
Kan

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-26 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-21 16:45 [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] KVM: VMX: Fix VM entry failure on PT_MODE_HOST_GUEST while host is using PT Xiaoyao Li
2022-09-21 16:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] perf/core: Expose perf_event_{en,dis}able_local() Xiaoyao Li
2022-09-22 12:16   ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-21 16:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] perf/x86/intel/pt: Introduce and export pt_get_curr_event() Xiaoyao Li
2022-09-21 20:56   ` kernel test robot
2022-09-22  0:50   ` kernel test robot
2022-09-22  5:14   ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-09-22 12:33   ` Liang, Kan
2022-09-22 12:58     ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-22 13:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-22 13:59         ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-22 14:09           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-22 14:42             ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-26 15:48               ` Liang, Kan
2022-09-26 17:24                 ` Jim Mattson
2022-09-26 18:08                   ` Liang, Kan [this message]
2022-09-27 14:27                     ` Wang, Wei W
2022-09-27 16:52                       ` Liang, Kan
2022-09-26 15:32       ` Liang, Kan
2022-09-21 16:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] KVM: VMX: Stop/resume host PT before/after VMX transition when PT_MODE_HOST_GUEST Xiaoyao Li
2022-09-22 12:34   ` Wang, Wei W

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