From: Dragos Tatulea <dtatulea@nvidia.com>
To: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
Cc: Luigi Rizzo <lrizzo@google.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
rizzo.unipi@gmail.com, m.szyprowski@samsung.com,
robin.murphy@arm.com, willemb@google.com, kuniyu@google.com,
davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com,
gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org,
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linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] swiotlb: avoid double copy with swiotlb on tx socket
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2026 17:39:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e2a95399-be5a-4194-8368-69599291ad66@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ao3DzzFIVPdtL7MX@google.com>
On 25.08.26 18:33, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 10:59:21AM +0200, Dragos Tatulea wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 16.06.26 13:06, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2026 at 02:33:52AM +0200, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> I am still looking into this, I was planning to bring this up in the
>>> upcoming LPC.
>>> I will give this patch a try. However, I believe that we need a more
>>> generalised concept for CoCo pre-decrypted allocators in the kernel.
>>>
>> There is a talk at LPC in the networking track about this [2]. This is
>> exactly the type of discussion that I was hoping to have there.
>
> I see, thanks for point that. I plan to be in LPC, so I will aim to
> attend this talk.
>
Great!
>>
>> Besides the issues mentioned in this thread we've also found that a lot
>> of overhead can come only from swiotlb allocations when running many queues.
>>
>> I will add information about this series in my talk. Hopefully I will also
>> have time to add some numbers for comparison.
>
> I had a quick look, I am not sure how that will shape at the end, but I
> think we need a general solution beyond NICs. For example in pKVM the
> bouncing is used with virtio devices, so doing this per-driver won't
> really work and is not possible in some scenarios where memory is
> allocated from the core kernel and then passed to the driver.
> So, I was thinking the kernel relying on
> CC_ATTR_MEM_ENCRYPT/force_dma_unencrypted() could detect that and
> allocate pre-shared memory for those cases.
>
Ideally it shouldn't be per driver. But I was thinking that there should
be a way for the user to provision memory for certain devices.
Thanks,
Dragos
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-26 15:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-15 23:42 [PATCH] swiotlb: avoid double copy with swiotlb on tx socket Luigi Rizzo
2026-06-16 0:25 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-16 0:33 ` Luigi Rizzo
2026-06-16 11:06 ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-08-24 8:59 ` Dragos Tatulea
2026-08-24 15:32 ` Luigi Rizzo
2026-08-24 17:39 ` Dragos Tatulea
2026-08-25 16:33 ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-08-26 15:39 ` Dragos Tatulea [this message]
2026-06-16 4:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2026-06-16 5:31 ` kernel test robot
2026-06-16 8:01 ` kernel test robot
2026-06-16 8:36 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-16 9:20 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-16 9:48 ` Luigi Rizzo
2026-06-16 10:28 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-16 11:21 ` kernel test robot
2026-08-24 15:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] swiotlb: avoid swiotlb copy on network sockets Luigi Rizzo
2026-08-24 15:29 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] swiotlb: enforce pool nareas and nslabs invariants Luigi Rizzo
2026-08-24 15:29 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] swiotlb/mm: Implement SWIOTLB nocopy page allocator Luigi Rizzo
2026-08-24 16:05 ` Robin Murphy
2026-08-24 16:30 ` Luigi Rizzo
2026-08-24 17:38 ` Dragos Tatulea
2026-08-24 15:29 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] net/swiotlb: Track bounce device per socket Luigi Rizzo
2026-08-24 15:29 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] net: Divert socket allocations to SWIOTLB for nocopy TX Luigi Rizzo
2026-08-24 16:32 ` Randy Dunlap
2026-08-24 15:29 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] swiotlb: Implement RX nocopy with fast recycling eviction Luigi Rizzo
2026-08-24 17:38 ` Dragos Tatulea
2026-08-24 17:37 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] swiotlb: avoid swiotlb copy on network sockets Dragos Tatulea
2026-08-25 8:03 ` [syzbot ci] " syzbot ci
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