From: "Mousa, Anas via lttng-dev" <lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org>
To: "Yitschak, Yehuda" <yehuday@amazon.com>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
"lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org" <lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org>
Subject: Re: [lttng-dev] Profiling LTTng tracepoint latency on different arm platforms
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2023 14:18:31 +0000 [thread overview]
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Hey Mathieu,
We see that upon recording a tracepoint, there are multiple stages of reserve-commit-write,
where atomics and shared memory accesses take up a big part of the recording time,
we're wondering, is there a "light-mode" of recording a tracepoint involving less logic or
a mode which can potentially have lower latency?
Also, are there any recent docs to share regarding tracepoint latency?
Regards,
Anas.
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From: Yitschak, Yehuda
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 5:21:35 PM
To: Mathieu Desnoyers; Mousa, Anas; lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL][lttng-dev] Profiling LTTng tracepoint latency on different arm platforms
> On 6/21/23 01:39, Yitschak, Yehuda wrote:
> >> On 6/20/23 10:20, Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev wrote:
> >>> On 6/20/23 06:27, Mousa, Anas via lttng-dev wrote:
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> Arethereanysuggestionstorootcausethehighlatencyandpotentiallyimprovei
> >> to
> >> n*platform****1*?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks and best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Anas.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I recommend using "perf" when tracing with the sample program in a
> >>> loop to figure out the hot spots. With that information on the "fast"
> >>> and "slow" system, we might be able to figure out what differs.
> >>>
> >>> Also, comparing the kernel configurations of the two systems can help.
> >>> Also comparing the glibc versions of the two systems would be relevant.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Also make sure you benchmark the lttng "snapshot" mode [1] to make
> >> sure you don't run into a situation where the disk/network I/O
> >> throughput cannot cope with the generated event throughput, thus
> >> causing the ring buffer to discard events. This would therefore
> >> "speed up" tracing from the application perspective because
> >> discarding an event is faster than writing it to a ring buffer.
> >
> > You mean we should avoid the "discard" loss mode and use "overwrite"
> loss mode since discard mode can fake fast performance ?
>
> Yes. In addition to use "overwrite-when-buffer-full" mode, the "snapshot"
> session also ensures that no consumer daemon extracts the trace data
> (unless an explicit snapshot record is performed), which allows comparing
> the ring buffer producer performance with minimal noise.
>
> If you really want to benchmark the discard-when-buffer-full mode and the
> the consumer daemon I/O behavior, then you need to take into account
> event discarded counts and the actual trace data size that was written to
> disk.
Since you mentioned this, is there any "stat" command which lists events such as discards and disk writes, etc ?
I looked this up in the past but couldn't find anything
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mathieu
>
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Mathieu
> >>
> >> [1] https://lttng.org/docs/v2.13/#doc-taking-a-snapshot
> >>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Mathieu
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mathieu Desnoyers
> >> EfficiOS Inc.
> >> https://www.efficios.com
> >>
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> Mathieu Desnoyers
> EfficiOS Inc.
> https://www.efficios.com
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Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-20 10:27 [lttng-dev] Profiling LTTng tracepoint latency on different arm platforms Mousa, Anas via lttng-dev
2023-06-20 14:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-06-20 18:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-06-21 5:39 ` Yitschak, Yehuda via lttng-dev
2023-06-21 13:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-06-21 14:21 ` Yitschak, Yehuda via lttng-dev
2023-09-10 14:18 ` Mousa, Anas via lttng-dev [this message]
2023-09-11 15:52 ` Mathieu Desnoyers via lttng-dev
2023-09-11 16:20 ` Michel Dagenais via lttng-dev
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