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From: Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
To: Victoria Dye <vdye@github.com>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Shaoxuan Yuan <shaoxuan.yuan02@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] builtin/grep.c: add --sparse option
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2022 13:43:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e719d1e1-1849-07bc-ea08-2729985e5048@github.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bc923a75-7d60-1199-40cd-9d5067d6511c@github.com>

On 8/17/2022 1:34 PM, Victoria Dye wrote:
> Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> Yup.  Is that "--sparse" or "--unsparse"?  We are busting the sparse
>> boundary and looking for everything, and calling the option to do so
>> "--sparse" somehow feels counter-intuitive, at least to me.
> 
> It is a bit unintuitive, but '--sparse' is already used to mean "operate on
> SKIP_WORKTREE entries (i.e., pretend the repo isn't a sparse-checkout)" in
> both 'add' (0299a69694 (add: implement the --sparse option, 2021-09-24)) and
> 'rm' (f9786f9b85 (rm: add --sparse option, 2021-09-24)). The
> 'checkout-index' option '--ignore-skip-worktree-bits' indicates similar
> behavior (and is, IMO, similarly confusing with its use of "ignore").
> 
> I'm not sure '--unsparse' would fit as an alternative, though, since 'git
> grep' isn't really "unsparsifying" the repo (to me, that would imply
> updating the index to remove the 'SKIP_WORKTREE' flag). Rather, it's looking
> at files that are sparse when, by default, it does not. 
> 
> I still like the consistency of '--sparse' with existing similar options in
> other commands but, if we want to try something clearer here, maybe
> something like '--search-sparse' is more descriptive?

My interpretation of '--sparse' is "include skip-worktree paths"
thinking of those paths being "sparse paths".

A too-long version could be '--ignore-sparse-checkout', but I can
understand the confusion where '--sparse' is interpreted as
'--respect-sparse-checkout'.

The existing pattern here means that it isn't Shaoxuan's responsibility
to pick a better name, but if we are interested in changing the name,
then we have some work to replace the previous '--sparse' options with
that name. I could do that replacement, assuming we land on a better name
and are willing to have that change of behavior.

Thanks,
-Stolee

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-17 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-17  7:56 [PATCH v1 0/2] grep: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-08-17  7:56 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] builtin/grep.c: add --sparse option Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-08-17 14:12   ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-17 17:13     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-17 17:34       ` Victoria Dye
2022-08-17 17:43         ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2022-08-17 18:47           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-17 17:37     ` Elijah Newren
2022-08-24 18:20     ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-08-24 19:08       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-17  7:56 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] builtin/grep.c: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-08-17 14:23   ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-24 21:06     ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-08-25  0:39       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-17 13:46 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] grep: " Derrick Stolee
2022-08-29 23:28 ` [PATCH v2 " Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-08-29 23:28   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] builtin/grep.c: add --sparse option Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-08-29 23:28   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] builtin/grep.c: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-08-30 13:45     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-09-01  4:57 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] grep: " Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-01  4:57   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] builtin/grep.c: add --sparse option Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-01  4:57   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] builtin/grep.c: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-01  4:57   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] builtin/grep.c: walking tree instead of expanding index with --sparse Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-01 17:03     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-09-01 18:31       ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-01 17:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-01 17:27       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-01 22:49         ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-01 22:36       ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-02  3:28     ` Victoria Dye
2022-09-02 18:47       ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-03  0:36 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] grep: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-03  0:36   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] builtin/grep.c: add --sparse option Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-03  0:36   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] builtin/grep.c: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-03  0:36   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] builtin/grep.c: walking tree instead of expanding index with --sparse Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-03  4:39     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-08  0:24       ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-08  0:18 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] grep: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-08  0:18   ` [PATCH v5 1/3] builtin/grep.c: add --sparse option Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-10  1:07     ` Victoria Dye
2022-09-14  6:08     ` Elijah Newren
2022-09-15  2:57       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-18  2:14         ` Elijah Newren
2022-09-18 19:52           ` Victoria Dye
2022-09-19  1:23             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-19  4:27             ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-19 11:03             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-09-20  7:13             ` Elijah Newren
2022-09-17  3:34       ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-18  4:24         ` Elijah Newren
2022-09-19  4:13           ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-17  3:45       ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-08  0:18   ` [PATCH v5 2/3] builtin/grep.c: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-08  0:18   ` [PATCH v5 3/3] builtin/grep.c: walking tree instead of expanding index with --sparse Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-08 17:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-08 20:46       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-09-08 20:56         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-08 21:06           ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-09 12:49           ` Derrick Stolee
2022-09-13 17:23         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-10  2:04     ` Victoria Dye
2022-09-23  4:18 ` [PATCH v6 0/1] grep: integrate with sparse index Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-23  4:18   ` [PATCH v6 1/1] builtin/grep.c: " Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-09-23 16:40     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-23 16:58     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-26 17:28       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-23 14:13   ` [PATCH v6 0/1] grep: " Derrick Stolee
2022-09-23 16:01   ` Victoria Dye
2022-09-23 17:08     ` Junio C Hamano

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