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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Yuan-Hao Hsu <aa9736195201@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	liam@infradead.org, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Aristeu Rozanski <aris@ruivo.org>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/gup: batch PTE-mapped large folios in gup_fast_pte_range()
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2026 10:43:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e988b0e8-3ee9-45ed-9d34-7b73d86d9cfd@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8f6d553-d818-4cc6-a1a1-a9c9149a17e9@kernel.org>

On 9/17/26 10:42, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 9/17/26 10:37, Yuan-Hao Hsu wrote:
>> GUP-fast grabs a PTE-mapped large folio one page at a time.  Every PTE
>> costs a try_grab_folio_fast() (a refcount cmpxchg, plus the pincount
>> atomic, a full barrier and a node stat update for FOLL_PIN), a
>> gup_fast_folio_allowed() and a folio_set_referenced(), so a 64 kB mTHP
>> pays sixteen of each and a PTE-mapped 2 MB THP pays 512.  The PMD and
>> PUD leaf paths already take the whole range with one
>> try_grab_folio_fast() call, and the slow path is getting the same
>> treatment for PTEs in Rik's follow_page_mask() series.
>>
>> The users are the hot ones: iov_iter_extract_user_pages() pins every
>> O_DIRECT buffer through pin_user_pages_fast(), io_uring registers its
>> buffers through it, and so does RDMA memory registration.  With mTHP
>> those buffers are PTE-mapped large folios.
>>
>> After the head page has been grabbed and verified as before, extend the
>> run to the following PTEs that map the next pages of the same folio
>> with the same protection bits, take the remaining references for the
>> run with try_grab_folio(), and fill pages[] from the run.  The PTEs of
>> the run are read while the reference on the folio is held, so the folio
>> can neither be freed nor split underneath the scan; a THP collapse can
>> still detach the page table, so the pmd is checked again after the run
>> is grabbed and the run is dropped if it changed, leaving the next
>> iteration to hit the existing pmd check and bail out.  A read-only run
>> of an anonymous folio stops at the first page that gup_must_unshare()
>> rejects, so the per-page exclusivity guarantee for FOLL_PIN is kept.
>>
>> folio_pte_batch_flags() does the scan.  It reads the entries with
>> ptep_get(), which is not safe without the page table lock on
>> CONFIG_GUP_GET_PXX_LOW_HIGH (x86 PAE, mips32, sh) or with arm64 contpte,
>> and GUP-fast reads every PTE with ptep_get_lockless() for that reason.
>> Add FPB_LOCKLESS to make the helper do the same; it is inlined per call
>> site, so the other callers do not change.
>>
>> The order-0 path keeps its instruction sequence.  The folio flags are
>> tested before folio_set_referenced() on purpose: a load of the flags
>> right after that locked instruction cost about 25% on order-0 pages in
>> the gup_test benchmark below, and reading them first brings that path
>> back to the baseline.
>>
>> gup_test ioctl over a 256 MB anonymous region, FOLL_WRITE, 65536 pages
>> per call, median of 15 runs, two baseline boots / one patched boot, on
>> an x86-64 VM:
>>
>>                        get_user_pages_fast()   pin_user_pages_fast()
>>                        before       after      before       after
>>   4 kB pages           849/789 us   783 us     1174/1138 us 1094 us
>>   64 kB mTHP           812/811 us   126 us     1215/1113 us  188 us
>>   1 MB mTHP            799/774 us    59 us     1185/1077 us   64 us
>>   2 MB THP, PTE-mapped 803/786 us    57 us     1159/1120 us   58 us
>>   2 MB THP, PMD-mapped  42/40 us     40 us       46/41 us     42 us
>>
>> fio O_DIRECT randread of a null_blk device (CPU bound) with the I/O
>> buffer in 64 kB mTHP, median of 15 five-second runs:
>>
>>   bs=1M psync                 126.2/125.6 GB/s  ->  220.6 GB/s
>>   bs=1M io_uring, iodepth 16   71.2/71.6 GB/s   ->  112.1 GB/s
>>   bs=64k io_uring, iodepth 16  50.2/50.7 GB/s   ->   60.1 GB/s
>>
>> IORING_REGISTER_BUFFERS of 1 GB, median of 15:
>>
>>   64 kB mTHP           6179/5998 us  ->  1599 us
>>   1 MB mTHP            5790/5801 us  ->   893 us
>>   4 kB pages           7173/6741 us  ->  6763 us
>>
> 
> I think Rik was already working on this and sent some patches. Anyhow, there is
> quite some GUP review backlog I have t go through, so this will have to wait.
> 

Ah, no, Rik looked at GUP not GUP-fast. So I'll have a look but it will take a
while.

-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-17  8:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-17  8:37 [PATCH] mm/gup: batch PTE-mapped large folios in gup_fast_pte_range() Yuan-Hao Hsu
2026-09-17  8:42 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-17  8:43   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-09-17  9:01     ` Yuan-Hao Hsu
2026-10-07 10:07   ` Rik van Riel
2026-10-07 10:14     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-07 10:47 ` Rik van Riel
2026-10-10 19:52   ` Yuan-Hao Hsu
2026-10-12 17:58     ` Rik van Riel
2026-10-12 19:05       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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