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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: "Penny, Zheng" <penny.zheng@amd.com>
Cc: "Huang, Ray" <Ray.Huang@amd.com>,
	"oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com" <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>,
	"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@vates.tech>,
	"Orzel, Michal" <Michal.Orzel@amd.com>,
	"Julien Grall" <julien@xen.org>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 28/28] xen/domctl: wrap common/domctl.c with CONFIG_MGMT_HYPERCALLS
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2025 08:14:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea81a0f2-d3d9-41f4-ae88-1426123129a6@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM4PR12MB84511357C8F6FB1976244CA0E1D6A@DM4PR12MB8451.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On 18.11.2025 07:43, Penny, Zheng wrote:
> [Public]
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2025 9:40 PM
>> To: Penny, Zheng <penny.zheng@amd.com>
>> Cc: Huang, Ray <Ray.Huang@amd.com>; oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com; Andrew
>> Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>; Anthony PERARD
>> <anthony.perard@vates.tech>; Orzel, Michal <Michal.Orzel@amd.com>; Julien
>> Grall <julien@xen.org>; Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com>; Stefano
>> Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>; xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 28/28] xen/domctl: wrap common/domctl.c with
>> CONFIG_MGMT_HYPERCALLS
>>
>> On 13.10.2025 12:15, Penny Zheng wrote:
>>> --- a/xen/common/Kconfig
>>> +++ b/xen/common/Kconfig
>>> @@ -646,11 +646,13 @@ config SYSTEM_SUSPEND
>>>       If unsure, say N.
>>>
>>>  config MGMT_HYPERCALLS
>>> -   def_bool y
>>> +   bool "Enable privileged hypercalls for system management"
>>>     help
>>>       This option shall only be disabled on some dom0less systems, or
>>>       PV shim on x86, to reduce Xen footprint via managing unnessary
>>> -     hypercalls, like sysctl, etc.
>>> +     hypercalls, like sysctl, domctl, etc.
>>> +     Be cautious to disable it, as users will face missing a few basic
>>> +     hypercalls like listdomains, getdomaininfo, etc.
>>
>> This is still too little, imo. For one I'm not sure "users" is quite the right term. I'd say
>> it's more "admins". And then, as mentioned, there are a few domctl-s which are
>> usable by DMs. Aiui device pass-through may also be impacted, which imo will
>> want mentioning here as well. Or else, if there is an implication that DMs aren't to
>> be used when MGMT_HYPERCALLS=n, that is what would want calling out.
> 
> How about
> "
>         Be cautious to disable it, as admins will face missing a few basic
>         hypercalls like listdomains, getdomaininfo, etc, hence leading to
>         have an impact on xl-device-passthrough and restricted DM.
> "

Much better. However, why "xl-" and why "restricted"? Neither aspect matters
here, unless I overlook something.

> Another question on PV_SHIM_EXCLUSIVE:
> After Stefano's " 6c80f0dd1bb  xen: fix randconfig build problems after introducing SYSCTL " reversion patch, and to avoid incurring randconfig failures till the last, maybe I shall combine all PV_SHIM_EXCLUSIVE-related changes into a new commit and put it in the last, after making MGMT_HYPERCALLS optional again?

Whatever works best.

Jan


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-18  7:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-13 10:15 [PATCH v3 00/28] Disable domctl-op via CONFIG_MGMT_HYPERCALLS Penny Zheng
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 01/28] xen/xsm: remove redundant xsm_iomem_mapping() Penny Zheng
2025-10-13 11:18   ` Jan Beulich
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 02/28] xen/mem_sharing: wrap hvm_copy_context_and_params() with CONFIG_MEM_SHARING Penny Zheng
2025-10-14 14:43   ` Grygorii Strashko
2025-10-28 17:01   ` Jan Beulich
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 03/28] xen/altp2m: move p2m_set_suppress_ve_multi() forward Penny Zheng
2025-10-28 17:03   ` Jan Beulich
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 04/28] xen/sched: remove vcpu_set_soft_affinity() Penny Zheng
2025-10-13 10:24   ` Jürgen Groß
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 05/28] xen/sysctl: replace CONFIG_SYSCTL with CONFIG_MGMT_DOMCTL Penny Zheng
2025-10-13 10:41   ` Jürgen Groß
2025-10-29 14:30   ` Jan Beulich
2025-10-29 21:26   ` Stewart Hildebrand
2025-11-19  6:33     ` Penny, Zheng
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 06/28] xen/x86: move domctl.o out of PV_SHIM_EXCLUSIVE Penny Zheng
2025-10-29 14:33   ` Jan Beulich
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 07/28] xen/domctl: make MGMT_HYPERCALLS transiently def_bool Penny Zheng
2025-10-29 14:37   ` Jan Beulich
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 09/28] xen/vm_event: consolidate CONFIG_VM_EVENT Penny Zheng
2025-10-21 13:24   ` Grygorii Strashko
2025-10-29 15:57   ` Jan Beulich
2025-11-11  7:08     ` Penny, Zheng
2025-11-11  8:13       ` Jan Beulich
2025-11-11  9:46         ` Penny, Zheng
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 10/28] xen/vm_event: make VM_EVENT depend on CONFIG_MGMT_HYPERCALLS Penny Zheng
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 11/28] xen/xsm: wrap xsm_vm_event_control() with CONFIG_VM_EVENT Penny Zheng
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 12/28] xen/domctl: wrap domain_pause_by_systemcontroller() with MGMT_HYPERCALLS Penny Zheng
2025-10-30 11:28   ` Jan Beulich
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 13/28] xen/domctl: wrap domain_soft_reset() with CONFIG_MGMT_HYPERCALLS Penny Zheng
2025-10-30 12:14   ` Jan Beulich
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 14/28] xen/domctl: wrap domain_resume() " Penny Zheng
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 15/28] xen/domctl: wrap domain_kill() " Penny Zheng
2025-10-30 12:43   ` Jan Beulich
2025-11-12  8:58     ` Penny, Zheng
2025-11-12 10:02       ` Jan Beulich
2025-11-13  4:11         ` Penny, Zheng
2025-11-13  4:40     ` Penny, Zheng
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 16/28] xen/domctl: wrap domain_set_node_affinity() " Penny Zheng
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 17/28] xen/domctl: wrap vcpu_affinity_domctl() " Penny Zheng
2025-10-13 10:44   ` Jürgen Groß
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 18/28] xen/domctl: wrap sched_adjust() " Penny Zheng
2025-10-13 11:03   ` Jürgen Groß
2025-10-13 11:13     ` Jan Beulich
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 19/28] xen/domctl: wrap xsm_irq_permission " Penny Zheng
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 20/28] xen/domctl: wrap arch-specific domain_set_time_offset() " Penny Zheng
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 21/28] xen/domctl: wrap xsm_set_target() " Penny Zheng
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 22/28] xen/domctl: wrap iommu-related domctl op " Penny Zheng
2025-10-30 13:09   ` Jan Beulich
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 23/28] xen/domctl: wrap arch_{get,set}_paging_mempool_size() " Penny Zheng
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 24/28] xen/domctl: make CONFIG_X86_PSR depend on CONFIG_MGMT_HYPERCALLS Penny Zheng
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 25/28] xen/domctl: avoid unreachable codes when both MGMT_HYPERCALLS and MEM_SHARING unset Penny Zheng
2025-10-30 13:13   ` Jan Beulich
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 26/28] xen/domctl: wrap arch-specific domctl-op with CONFIG_MGMT_HYPERCALLS Penny Zheng
2025-10-30 13:24   ` Jan Beulich
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 27/28] xen/domctl: make HVM_PARAM_IDENT_PT conditional upon CONFIG_MGMT_HYPERCALLS Penny Zheng
2025-10-30 13:34   ` Jan Beulich
2025-11-18  6:45     ` Penny, Zheng
2025-11-18  7:12       ` Jan Beulich
2025-10-13 10:15 ` [PATCH v3 28/28] xen/domctl: wrap common/domctl.c with CONFIG_MGMT_HYPERCALLS Penny Zheng
2025-10-30 13:40   ` Jan Beulich
2025-11-18  6:43     ` Penny, Zheng
2025-11-18  7:14       ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2025-11-18  7:51         ` Penny, Zheng
2025-11-18 19:29           ` Jason Andryuk
2025-11-20  4:09             ` Penny, Zheng
     [not found] ` <20251013101540.3502842-9-Penny.Zheng@amd.com>
2025-10-29 15:02   ` [PATCH v3 08/28] xen/vm_event: introduce vm_event_is_enabled() Jan Beulich
2025-10-30 11:10     ` Grygorii Strashko

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