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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 01/30] mm: Introduce kpkeys
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2026 15:00:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eaca640b-5006-489b-8b2d-148a3c4073da@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260227175518.3728055-2-kevin.brodsky@arm.com>

On 2/27/26 18:54, Kevin Brodsky wrote:
> kpkeys is a simple framework to enable the use of protection keys
> (pkeys) to harden the kernel itself. This patch introduces the basic
> API in <linux/kpkeys.h>: a couple of functions to set and restore
> the pkey register and macros to define guard objects.
> 
> kpkeys introduces a new concept on top of pkeys: the kpkeys level.
> Each level is associated to a set of permissions for the pkeys
> managed by the kpkeys framework. kpkeys_set_level(lvl) sets those
> permissions according to lvl, and returns the original pkey
> register, to be later restored by kpkeys_restore_pkey_reg(). To
> start with, only KPKEYS_LVL_DEFAULT is available, which is meant
> to grant RW access to KPKEYS_PKEY_DEFAULT (i.e. all memory since
> this is the only available pkey for now).
> 
> Because each architecture implementing pkeys uses a different
> representation for the pkey register, and may reserve certain pkeys
> for specific uses, support for kpkeys must be explicitly indicated
> by selecting ARCH_HAS_KPKEYS and defining the following functions in
> <asm/kpkeys.h>, in addition to the macros provided in
> <asm-generic/kpkeys.h>:

I don't quite understand the reason for using levels. Levels sounds like
it would all be in some ordered fashion, where higher levels have access
to lower levels.

Think of that as a key that can unlock all "lower" locks, not just a
single lock.

Then, the question is about the ordering once we introduce new
keys/locks. With two, it obviously doesn't matter :)

So naturally I wonder whether levels is really the right abstraction
here, and why we are not simply using "distinct" keys, like

KPKEY_DEFAULT
KPKEY_PGTABLE
KPKEY_SUPER_SECRET1
KPKEY_SUPER_SECRET2

Is it because you want KPKEY_PGTABLE also be able to write to KPKEY_DEFAULT?

But how would you handle KPKEY_SUPER_SECRET1 and KPKEY_SUPER_SECRET2 then?

-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-15 13:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-27 17:54 [PATCH v6 00/30] pkeys-based page table hardening Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v6 01/30] mm: Introduce kpkeys Kevin Brodsky
2026-04-15 13:00   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-04-15 15:50     ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-04-17 12:00       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-17 13:10         ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-04-17 14:37   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-17 15:59     ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-04-17 17:38       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-20  6:46         ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-04-20 18:49           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v6 02/30] set_memory: Introduce set_memory_pkey() stub Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v6 03/30] arm64: mm: Enable overlays for all EL1 indirect permissions Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v6 04/30] arm64: Introduce por_elx_set_pkey_perms() helper Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v6 05/30] arm64: Implement asm/kpkeys.h using POE Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v6 06/30] arm64: set_memory: Implement set_memory_pkey() Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v6 07/30] arm64: Reset POR_EL1 on exception entry Kevin Brodsky
2026-05-05 15:42   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v6 08/30] arm64: Context-switch POR_EL1 Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v6 09/30] arm64: Initialize POR_EL1 register on cpu_resume() Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v6 10/30] arm64: Enable kpkeys Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:54 ` [PATCH v6 11/30] memblock: Move INIT_MEMBLOCK_* macros to header Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 12/30] set_memory: Introduce arch_has_pte_only_direct_map() Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 13/30] mm: kpkeys: Introduce kpkeys_hardened_pgtables feature Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 14/30] mm: kpkeys: Introduce block-based page table allocator Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 15/30] mm: kpkeys: Handle splitting of linear map Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 16/30] mm: kpkeys: Defer early call to set_memory_pkey() Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 17/30] mm: kpkeys: Add shrinker for block pgtable allocator Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 18/30] mm: kpkeys: Introduce early page table allocator Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 19/30] mm: kpkeys: Introduce hook for protecting static page tables Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 20/30] arm64: cpufeature: Add helper to directly probe CPU for POE support Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 21/30] arm64: set_memory: Implement arch_has_pte_only_direct_map() Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 22/30] arm64: kpkeys: Support KPKEYS_LVL_PGTABLES Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 23/30] arm64: kpkeys: Ensure the linear map can be modified Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 20:28   ` kernel test robot
2026-02-27 22:56   ` kernel test robot
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 24/30] arm64: kpkeys: Handle splitting of linear map Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 25/30] arm64: kpkeys: Protect early page tables Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 26/30] arm64: kpkeys: Protect init_pg_dir Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 27/30] arm64: kpkeys: Guard page table writes Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 28/30] arm64: kpkeys: Batch KPKEYS_LVL_PGTABLES switches Kevin Brodsky
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 29/30] arm64: kpkeys: Enable kpkeys_hardened_pgtables support Kevin Brodsky
2026-03-01  5:40   ` kernel test robot
2026-02-27 17:55 ` [PATCH v6 30/30] mm: Add basic tests for kpkeys_hardened_pgtables Kevin Brodsky
2026-03-02  9:27 ` [PATCH v6 00/30] pkeys-based page table hardening Kevin Brodsky
2026-04-15 12:48 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-15 15:48   ` Kevin Brodsky

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