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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] mm/huge_memory: fix shrinking of all-zero THPs with max_ptes_none default
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 17:36:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ebb2a888-a111-4c27-925e-58bfa8e07852@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0cd87ad4-206c-4367-b7e8-9c1ccddc15c7@lucifer.local>

On 05.09.25 17:30, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 05, 2025 at 04:11:37PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> We added an early exit in thp_underused(), probably to avoid scanning
>> pages when there is no chance for success.
>>
>> However, assume we have max_ptes_none = 511 (default).
>>
>> Nothing should stop us from freeing all pages part of a THP that
> 
> Freeing 'all pages which are part of a THP' rather?

I'm German, I don't know what I'm doing. :D

> 
>> is completely zero (512) and khugepaged will for sure not try to
> 
> that is -> that are?

the THP is zero?

> 
>> instantiate a THP in that case (512 shared zeropages).
> 
> But if you write faulted they're not the zero page? And how are they shared? I
> mean be being dumb here.

The shrinker will replace zeroed pages by the shared zeropages.

> 
>>
>> This can just trivially happen if someone writes a single 0 byte into a
>> PMD area, or of course, when data ends up being zero later.
>>
>> So let's remove that early exit.
>>
>> Do we want to CC stable? Hm, not sure. Probably not urgent.
> 
> Surely this is worth having?

Alrighty, let me cc stable.

> 
>>
>> Note that, as default, the THP shrinker is active
>> (/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/shrink_underused = 1), and all
>> THPs are added to the deferred split lists. However, with the
>> max_ptes_none default we would never scan them. We would not do that. If
> 
> Nit but 'we would not do that' is kinda duplicative here :)

Yeah, fixed it already while rewriting: this was meant to be "would now".


Thanks!


-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-05 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-05 14:11 [PATCH v1] mm/huge_memory: fix shrinking of all-zero THPs with max_ptes_none default David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 14:37 ` Zi Yan
2025-09-05 14:39   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-06  6:35     ` Lance Yang
2025-09-05 14:43   ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 14:47     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 14:58       ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 14:40 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 14:46   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 14:53     ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 14:58       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 15:01         ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 15:04           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 15:16             ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 15:28               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 15:53                 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 15:57                   ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 15:58                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 16:47                     ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 16:55                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 17:26                         ` Usama Arif
2025-09-08  9:14                           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-14 14:04   ` Dev Jain
2025-09-15  8:51     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 15:02 ` Usama Arif
2025-09-05 15:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-05 15:30 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-05 15:36   ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-09-08 11:32     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-06  6:39 ` Lance Yang
2025-09-08  2:16 ` Baolin Wang

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