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To: Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 5/9] x86/efi: Disable LASS while mapping the EFI runtime services
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2025 11:12:53 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ee2fce64-91ce-4b78-b2f9-33364ea0c52f@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <efd6ec82-5576-41f1-a244-2f80d72e93e4@intel.com>
On 10/31/25 11:03, Sohil Mehta wrote:
>> Deferring is a good idea. I was just asking for the same thing for the
>> CR pinning enforcement. The earlier we try to do these things, the more
>> we just trip over ourselves.
> I had suggested deferring as well to Kirill when I was reviewing the
> series. He preferred to enable LASS with other similar features such as
> SMAP, SMEP.
>
> One other thing to consider:
>
> Doing it in identify_cpu() makes it easy for all the APs to program
> their CR4.LASS bit. If we were to defer it, we would need some
> additional work to setup all the APs.
That's true. We'd need an smp_call_function() of some kind. *But*, once
that is in place, it's hopefully just a matter of moving that one line
of code per feature from identify_cpu() over to the new function.
> Do we already do this for something else? That would make it easier to
> tag along.
We don't do it for anything else that I can think of.
But there's a pretty broad set of things that are for "security" that
aren't necessary while you're just running trusted ring0 code:
* SMAP/SMEP
* CR pinning itself
* MSR_IA32_SPEC_CTRL
* MSR_IA32_TSX_CTRL
They just haven't mattered until now because they don't have any
practical effect until you actually have code running on _PAGE_USER
mappings trying to attack the kernel.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-31 18:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-29 21:03 [PATCH v11 0/9] x86: Enable Linear Address Space Separation support Sohil Mehta
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 1/9] x86/cpufeatures: Enumerate the LASS feature bits Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:03 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 2/9] x86/cpu: Add an LASS dependency on SMAP Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:04 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 3/9] x86/asm: Introduce inline memcpy and memset Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:06 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 4/9] x86/alternatives: Disable LASS when patching kernel code Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:10 ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-10 18:15 ` Sohil Mehta
2025-11-10 19:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-10 19:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-12 13:56 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-11-12 14:51 ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-12 14:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-12 15:18 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-11-12 15:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-12 15:28 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-11-12 15:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-12 16:18 ` Sohil Mehta
2025-11-12 16:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-12 16:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 5/9] x86/efi: Disable LASS while mapping the EFI runtime services Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:11 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-31 17:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2025-10-31 17:41 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-31 18:03 ` Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 18:12 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2025-11-07 9:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 9:22 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-11-07 9:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-07 9:35 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-11-07 9:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 10:09 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-11-07 10:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-08 0:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2025-11-08 16:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-08 22:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-07 10:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-07 10:17 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-10-31 19:04 ` Sohil Mehta
2025-11-07 7:36 ` Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 18:32 ` Sohil Mehta
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 6/9] x86/kexec: Disable LASS during relocate kernel Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:14 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 7/9] x86/traps: Communicate a LASS violation in #GP message Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:16 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-31 19:59 ` Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 20:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2025-10-31 20:56 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 8/9] selftests/x86: Update the negative vsyscall tests to expect a #GP Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:20 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-29 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 9/9] x86/cpu: Enable LASS by default during CPU initialization Sohil Mehta
2025-10-30 8:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-30 15:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2025-10-30 16:44 ` Sohil Mehta
2025-10-30 16:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2025-10-30 17:24 ` Sohil Mehta
2025-10-30 17:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2025-10-30 21:13 ` David Laight
2025-10-31 6:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-10-31 16:55 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-30 16:27 ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-07 8:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-11-07 20:08 ` Sohil Mehta
2025-10-31 17:21 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-31 20:04 ` Sohil Mehta
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