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From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
To: Wesley Cheng <quic_wcheng@quicinc.com>,
	mathias.nyman@intel.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	lgirdwood@gmail.com, broonie@kernel.org, perex@perex.cz,
	tiwai@suse.com, agross@kernel.org, andersson@kernel.org,
	konrad.dybcio@linaro.org, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org, conor+dt@kernel.org,
	srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org, bgoswami@quicinc.com,
	Thinh.Nguyen@synopsys.com
Cc: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 34/34] ASoC: usb: Rediscover USB SND devices on USB port add
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 08:35:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <efa9cdd0-4e5b-4b54-a4ea-7ec735224f44@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6409c486-7393-4352-489c-ecd488597c4c@quicinc.com>



On 10/23/23 16:54, Wesley Cheng wrote:
> Hi Pierre,
> 
> On 10/17/2023 4:11 PM, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/17/23 15:01, Wesley Cheng wrote:
>>> In case the USB backend device has not been initialized/probed, USB SND
>>> device connections can still occur.  When the USB backend is eventually
>>> made available, previous USB SND device connections are not
>>> communicated to
>>> the USB backend.  Call snd_usb_rediscover_devices() to generate the
>>> connect
>>> callbacks for all USB SND devices connected.  This will allow for the
>>> USB
>>> backend to be updated with the current set of devices available.
>>>
>>> The chip array entries are all populated and removed while under the
>>> register_mutex, so going over potential race conditions:
>>>
>>> Thread#1:
>>>    q6usb_component_probe()
>>>      --> snd_soc_usb_add_port()
>>>        --> snd_usb_rediscover_devices()
>>>          --> mutex_lock(register_mutex)
>>>
>>> Thread#2
>>>    --> usb_audio_disconnect()
>>>      --> mutex_lock(register_mutex)
>>>
>>> So either thread#1 or thread#2 will complete first.  If
>>>
>>> Thread#1 completes before thread#2:
>>>    SOC USB will notify DPCM backend of the device connection.  Shortly
>>>    after, once thread#2 runs, we will get a disconnect event for the
>>>    connected device.
>>>
>>> Thread#2 completes before thread#1:
>>>    Then during snd_usb_rediscover_devices() it won't notify of any
>>>    connection for that particular chip index.
>> Looks like you are assuming the regular USB audio stuff is probed first?
>>
>> What if it's not the case? Have you tested with a manual 'blacklist' and
>> "modprobe" sequence long after all the DSP stuff is initialized?
>>
>> It really reminds me of audio+display issues, and the same opens apply
>> IMHO.
> 
> Not necessarily...if the USB audio driver is not probed, then that is
> the same scenario as when there is no USB audio capable device plugged
> in, while the offload path is waiting for the connect event. I think
> this is the standard scenario.
> 
> In the situation where the platform sound card hasn't probed yet and USB
> audio devices are being identified, then that is basically the scenario
> that would be more of an issue, since its USB SND that notifies of the
> connection state (at the time of connect/disconnect).

Not following if this scenario is covered?

> I've tried with building these drivers as modules and probing them at
> different times/sequences, and I haven't seen an issue so far.

The scenario I have in mind is this:

the platform driver is on the deny list, the USB driver detects a
device. When the platform driver probes at a later time (with a manual
modprobe to make delays really long), how would the notification be handled?

Between audio and display, we use the 'drm_audio_component' layer to
model these sort of run-time binding between independent driver stacks.
It's not used here but we need a moral equivalent, don't we?

It would really help if you documented a bit more the dependencies or
timing assumptions, to make sure we have a stable solution to build on.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-24 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-17 20:00 [PATCH v9 00/34] Introduce QC USB SND audio offloading support Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 01/34] xhci: split free interrupter into separate remove and free parts Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 02/34] xhci: add support to allocate several interrupters Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 03/34] xhci: add helper to stop endpoint and wait for completion Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 04/34] xhci: sideband: add initial api to register a sideband entity Wesley Cheng
2023-10-25  3:24   ` Albert Wang
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 05/34] usb: host: xhci-mem: Cleanup pending secondary event ring events Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 06/34] usb: host: xhci-mem: Allow for interrupter clients to choose specific index Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 07/34] ASoC: Add SOC USB APIs for adding an USB backend Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 21:48   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-18  2:07     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 08/34] ASoC: dt-bindings: qcom,q6dsp-lpass-ports: Add USB_RX port Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 09/34] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Introduce USB AFE port to q6dsp Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 21:32   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-18  1:45     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-18 13:47       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-18 19:36         ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-19  1:00           ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-19 18:42             ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 10/34] ASoC: qdsp6: q6afe: Increase APR timeout Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 11/34] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Add USB backend ASoC driver for Q6 Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 21:46   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 12/34] ALSA: usb-audio: Introduce USB SND platform op callbacks Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 13/34] ALSA: usb-audio: Export USB SND APIs for modules Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 14/34] dt-bindings: usb: xhci: Add num-hc-interrupters definition Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 15/34] dt-bindings: usb: dwc3: Limit " Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 16/34] usb: dwc3: Specify maximum number of XHCI interrupters Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 17/34] usb: host: xhci-plat: Set XHCI max interrupters if property is present Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 18/34] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: Add USB QMI definitions Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 19/34] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: Introduce QC USB SND offloading support Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 23:21   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 20/34] ALSA: usb-audio: Check for support for requested audio format Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 22:29   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-18 20:21     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 21/34] ASoC: usb: Add PCM format check API for USB backend Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 22:33   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-18 20:33     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 22/34] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Ensure PCM format is supported by USB audio device Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 23/34] ALSA: usb-audio: Prevent starting of audio stream if in use Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 22:37   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-18 20:33     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 24/34] ASoC: dt-bindings: Add Q6USB backend Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 25/34] ASoC: dt-bindings: Update example for enabling USB offload on SM8250 Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 26/34] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: q6afe: Split USB AFE dev_token param into separate API Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 22:39   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-19  0:10     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 27/34] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: Populate PCM and USB chip information Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 22:41   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-19  0:59     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 28/34] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Add support to track available USB PCM devices Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 22:43   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-19  1:00     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 29/34] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Add SND kcontrol to select offload device Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 22:50   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-19  1:39     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 30/34] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Add SND kcontrol for fetching offload status Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 22:53   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-19  1:41     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-19 19:25       ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-19 20:39         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 31/34] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Add headphone jack for offload connection status Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 23:03   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 32/34] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: Use card and PCM index from QMI request Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 33/34] ALSA: usb-audio: Allow for rediscovery of connected USB SND devices Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 23:07   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 34/34] ASoC: usb: Rediscover USB SND devices on USB port add Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 23:11   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-23 21:54     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-24 13:35       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2023-10-25 22:31         ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:58 ` [PATCH v9 00/34] Introduce QC USB SND audio offloading support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-18  0:25   ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-18 13:54     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-18 20:20       ` Wesley Cheng

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