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From: Manos Pitsidianakis <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>
To: "Antonio Caggiano" <quic_acaggian@quicinc.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé " <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Pierrick Bouvier" <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Mads Ynddal" <mads@ynddal.dk>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Alex Benn é e" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Marc-Andr é Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daud é " <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Zhao Liu" <zhao1.liu@intel.com>,
	"Gustavo Romero" <gustavo.romero@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/6] Implement ARM PL011 in Rust
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 15:49:17 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ex2dt.gwm832c27uu@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e76ba00c-0b9c-42ad-93e2-13a2e6662c60@quicinc.com>

Hello Antonio!

On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 15:45, Antonio Caggiano <quic_acaggian@quicinc.com> wrote:
>Hi there :)
>
>On 11/06/2024 12:58, Manos Pitsidianakis wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 13:57, "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 11:29:36PM +0300, Manos Pitsidianakis wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 22:37, Pierrick Bouvier 
>>>> <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>> > Hello Manos,
>>>> > > On 6/10/24 11:22, Manos Pitsidianakis wrote:
>>>> > > Hello everyone,
>>>> > > > > This is an early draft of my work on implementing a very 
>>>> simple device,
>>>> > > in this case the ARM PL011 (which in C code resides in 
>>>> hw/char/pl011.c
>>>> > > and is used in hw/arm/virt.c).
>>>> > > > > The device is functional, with copied logic from the C code 
>>>> but with
>>>> > > effort not to make a direct C to Rust translation. In other 
>>>> words, do
>>>> > > not write Rust as a C developer would.
>>>> > > > > That goal is not complete but a best-effort case. To give a 
>>>> specific
>>>> > > example, register values are typed but interrupt bit flags are 
>>>> not (but
>>>> > > could be). I will leave such minutiae for later iterations.
>>>
>>> snip
>>>
>>>> > Maybe it could be better if build.rs file was *not* needed for new
>>>> > devices/folders, and could be abstracted as a detail of the python
>>>> > wrapper script instead of something that should be committed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That'd mean you cannot work on the rust files with a LanguageServer, you
>>>> cannot run cargo build or cargo check or cargo clippy, etc. That's why I
>>>> left the alternative choice of including a manually generated 
>>>> bindings file
>>>> (generated.rs.inc)
>>>
>>> I would not expect QEMU developers to be running 'cargo <anything>'
>>> directly at all.
>>>
>>> QEMU's build system is 'meson' + 'ninja' with a 'configure' + 'make'
>>> convenience facade.
>>>
>>> Any use of 'cargo' would be an internal impl detail of meson rules
>>> for building rust code, and developers should still exclusively work
>>> with 'make' or 'ninja' to run builds & tests.
>> 
>> No, that's not true. If I wrote the pl011 device with this workflow I'd 
>> just waste time using meson. Part of the development is making sure the 
>> library type checks, compiles, using cargo to run style formatting, to 
>> check for lints, perhaps run tests. Doing this only through meson is an 
>> unnecessary complication.
>> 
>
>My favorite tool for Rust development is rust-analyzer, which works very 
>well with cargo-based projects. Making it work with meson is just a 
>matter of pointing rust-analyzer to the rust-project.json file generated 
>by meson at configuration time (just like compile_commands.json).

That's only generated for meson rust targets, whereas we are currently 
compiling with a cargo wrapper script.

>
>Unfortunately, rust-analyzer also relies on cargo for doing its check. I 
>was able to override that with ninja, but it requires `meson setup` with 
>`RUSTFLAGS="--emit=metadata --error-format=json"`. That makes 
>rust-analyzer happy, but compilation output is not readable anymore 
>being json-like.
>
>I ended up working with 2 build folders, one for me, one for 
>rust-analyzer. So, yeah, it complicates a bit.
>
>> To compile and run QEMU with a rust component, sure, you'd use meson.
>> 
>
>Cheers,
>Antonio


  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-11 12:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-10 18:22 [RFC PATCH v1 0/6] Implement ARM PL011 in Rust Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-10 18:22 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/6] build-sys: Add rust feature option Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-10 19:25   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-06-11 14:19     ` Alex Bennée
2024-06-11 17:53     ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-11 18:25       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-06-12  8:04         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-12  8:25           ` Marc-André Lureau
2024-06-10 18:22 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/6] DO NOT MERGE: add rustdoc build for gitlab pages Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-10 18:22 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/6] DO NOT MERGE: replace TYPE_PL011 with x-pl011-rust in arm virt machine Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-10 18:22 ` [RFC PATCH v1 6/6] DO NOT MERGE: update rustdoc gitlab pages gen Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-10 19:37 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/6] Implement ARM PL011 in Rust Pierrick Bouvier
2024-06-10 20:29   ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-10 21:38     ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-06-11  5:47       ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-11  9:21       ` Alex Bennée
2024-06-11 15:32         ` Pierrick Bouvier
2024-06-11  8:02     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-11  9:18       ` Alex Bennée
2024-06-11 10:57     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-11 10:58       ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-11 11:09         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-11 11:32           ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-11 12:51           ` Alex Bennée
2024-06-11 12:54             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-11 12:45         ` Antonio Caggiano
2024-06-11 12:49           ` Manos Pitsidianakis [this message]
2024-06-10 19:59 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-06-10 20:15   ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-10 20:47     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-06-11  8:42       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-11  9:30       ` Alex Bennée
2024-06-11 13:13       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-06-11  8:11   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-06-11  8:18 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-11  9:53   ` Zhao Liu
2024-06-11 10:50   ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-11  8:22 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-11  9:45   ` Zhao Liu
2024-06-11 10:41     ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-11 14:32       ` Zhao Liu
2024-06-11 10:40   ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2024-06-11 13:16   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-06-11 14:11     ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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