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From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	"Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: "Marek Marczykowski-Górecki" <marmarek@invisiblethingslab.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	"George Dunlap" <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	"Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: Design session "MSI-X support with Linux stubdomain" notes
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 14:48:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f26d344a-31a5-4231-e006-595dca006d02@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YzWG7pfXOt5O6AJS@MacBook-Air-de-Roger.local>


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On 29.09.22 13:52, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 01:44:28PM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 29.09.2022 12:57, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 02:47:55PM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 26.09.2022 14:43, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 08:00:00PM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 22.09.2022 18:05, Anthony PERARD wrote:
>>>>>>> WARNING: Notes missing at the beginning of the meeting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> session description:
>>>>>>>> Currently a HVM with PCI passthrough and Qemu Linux stubdomain doesn’t
>>>>>>>> support MSI-X. For the device to (partially) work, Qemu needs a patch masking
>>>>>>>> MSI-X from the PCI config space. Some drivers are not happy about that, which
>>>>>>>> is understandable (device natively supports MSI-X, so fallback path are
>>>>>>>> rarely tested).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is mostly (?) about qemu accessing /dev/mem directly (here:
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/qemu/qemu/blob/master/hw/xen/xen_pt_msi.c#L579) - lets
>>>>>>>> discuss alternative interface that stubdomain could use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when qemu forward interrupt,
>>>>>>>      for correct mask bit, it read physical mask bit.
>>>>>>>      an hypercall would make sense.
>>>>>>>      -> benefit, mask bit in hardware will be what hypervisor desire, and device model desire.
>>>>>>>      from guest point of view, interrupt should be unmask.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> interrupt request are first forwarded to qemu, so xen have to do some post processing once request comes back from qemu.
>>>>>>>      it's weird..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> someone should have a look, and rationalize this weird path.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Xen tries to not forward everything to qemu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> why don't we do that in xen.
>>>>>>>      there's already code in xen for that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what I didn't pay enough attention to when talking was that the
>>>>>> completion logic in Xen is for writes only. Maybe something similar
>>>>>> can be had for reads as well, but that's to be checked ...
>>>>>
>>>>> I spent some time trying to follow that part of qemu, and I think it
>>>>> reads vector control only on the write path, to keep some bits
>>>>> unchanged, and also detect whether Xen masked it behind qemu's back.
>>>>> My understanding is, since 484d7c852e "x86/MSI-X: track host and guest
>>>>> mask-all requests separately" it is unnecessary, because Xen will
>>>>> remember guest's intention, so qemu can simply use its own internal
>>>>> state and act on that (guest writes will go through qemu, so it should
>>>>> have up to date view from guest's point of view).
>>>>>
>>>>> As for PBA access, it is read by qemu only to pass it to the guest. I'm
>>>>> not sure whether qemu should use hypercall to retrieve it, or maybe
>>>>> Xen should fixup value itself on the read path.
>>>>
>>>> Forwarding the access to qemu just for qemu to use a hypercall to obtain
>>>> the value needed seems backwards to me. If we need new code in Xen, we
>>>> can as well handle the read directly I think, without involving qemu.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if I fully follow what qemu does here, but I think the
>>> reason for such handling is that PBA can (and often do) live on the same
>>> page as the actual MSI-X table. I'm trying to adjust qemu to not
>>> intercept this read, but at this point I'm not yet sure of that's even
>>> possible on sub-page granularity.
>>>
>>> But, to go forward with PoC/debugging, I hardwired PBA read to
>>> 0xFFFFFFFF, and it seems it doesn't work. My observation is that the
>>> handler in the Linux driver isn't called. There are several moving
>>> part (it could very well be bug in the driver, or some other part in the
>>> VM). Is there some place in Xen I can see if an interrupt gets delivered
>>> to the guest (some function I can add debug print to), or is it
>>> delivered directly to the guest?
>>
>> I guess "iommu=no-intpost" would suppress "direct" delivery (if hardware
>> is capable of that in the first place). And wait - this option actually
>> default to off.
>>
>> As to software delivery - I guess you would want to start from
>> do_IRQ_guest() and then see where things get lost. (Adding logging to
>> such a path of course has a fair risk of ending up overly chatty.)
> 
> Having dealt with interrupt issues before, try to limit logging to the
> IRQ you are interested on only - using xentrace might be a better
> option depending on what you need to debug, albeit it's kind of a pain
> to add new trace points as you also need to modify xenalyze to print
> them.

Did you consider using debugtrace_printk()?


Juergen

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      reply	other threads:[~2022-09-29 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-22 16:05 Design session "MSI-X support with Linux stubdomain" notes Anthony PERARD
2022-09-22 18:00 ` Jan Beulich
2022-09-26 12:43   ` Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
2022-09-26 12:47     ` Jan Beulich
2022-09-29 10:57       ` Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
2022-09-29 11:44         ` Jan Beulich
2022-09-29 11:52           ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-09-29 12:48             ` Juergen Gross [this message]

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