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From: Patrick Georgi <patrick@georgi-clan.de>
To: grub-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: TPM chip and Grub bootloader
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 11:06:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f368tj$avp$1@sea.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070524160348.GA13048@aragorn>

Robert Millan schrieb:
> On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 01:41:31AM -0700, karmo wrote:
>> hi
>> i want to program Grub to use the TPM chip to load certified Operating
>> System (like windows or redhat, it doesn't matter....but perhaps i will use
>> a redhat versione).
>> can you give me documents about how to do this?
> 
> Is that related to Digital Restriction Management?  (just curious)
The TPM trust chain has multiple uses, somewhat related to each other:
1. bind executables to a system state (as defined by a hash over BIOS 
image, boot loader, kernel, a set of drivers, ...)
2. bind the keystore in the TPM chip to that system state

As so often, it can be used for, and against the user. Binding certain 
data to a machine (eg. certificates) and making it non-trivial to get at 
them.
The bad side is that the system state lock means some kind of lock-in 
(read your encrypted data on two different systems on the same machine? 
well, they lead to different system states, so the keys you need aren't 
available).

it also didn't help in the early state of TPM, that some media industry 
chills "proposed" lots of "extensions" to the basic TPM model that would 
make a media player intrusion proof (right in front of the press that 
took their wet dreams at face value and part of the specs), and that 
some misleading and downright wrong papers by opponents (the infamous 
"tcpa faq") became popular.


Patrick Georgi




  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-25 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-24  8:41 TPM chip and Grub bootloader karmo
2007-05-24  8:59 ` Julien Ranc
2007-05-24 16:03 ` Robert Millan
2007-05-25  9:06   ` Patrick Georgi [this message]
2007-05-25 15:11     ` Bruno Wolff III
2007-05-30 13:18       ` Robert Millan
2007-05-30 23:28         ` Stefan Reinauer
2007-05-31 16:40           ` Marco Gerards
2007-06-01  0:13             ` Stefan Reinauer
2007-06-01 10:20           ` Klaus Weiss
2007-06-01 10:29           ` Klaus Weiss
2007-05-31 10:45         ` Patrick Georgi
2007-05-31 14:01           ` Robert Millan
2007-05-30 13:11     ` Robert Millan
2007-05-26 23:25 ` Jerone Young

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