From: Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>
To: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
hughd@google.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
usama.arif@linux.dev
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: shmem: make unused huge shrinker memcg aware
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 10:23:41 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f39a287a-3f70-4f6b-8c5b-5f6cb78bfda2@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d850e8e2-ba53-4876-b92d-88c3d341b8e6@linux.alibaba.com>
Hi Baolin,
On 7/17/26 8:50 PM, Baolin Wang wrote:
>
>
> On 7/15/26 5:55 PM, Qi Zheng wrote:
>> Hi Baolin,
>
> Sorry for late reply.
>
>> On 7/15/26 5:37 PM, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>> Hi Qi,
>>>
>>> On 7/14/26 11:19 AM, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>> From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
>>>>
>>>> The shmem unused huge shrinker keeps a per-superblock list of inodes
>>>> whose
>>>> tail huge folio extends beyond i_size. Since that list is not memcg
>>>> aware,
>>>> reclaim triggered by one memcg can scan inodes from the whole
>>>> superblock
>>>> and split shmem huge folios charged to unrelated memcgs.
>>>>
>>>> Convert the shrink list to a memcg-aware list_lru. Queue each inode
>>>> on the
>>>> list_lru sublist matching the memcg and node of the current tail huge
>>>> folio, so non-root memcg reclaim only walks candidates charged to the
>>>> reclaiming memcg. Global reclaim, root memcg reclaim and shmem quota
>>>> reclaim keep global semantics.
>>>>
>>>> The list_lru still tracks inodes while the actual split target is the
>>>> current tail huge folio, so validate the folio memcg/node during
>>>> scan. If
>>>> the folio no longer matches the reclaim context or splitting cannot
>>>> proceed, requeue the inode according to the current tail folio; if the
>>>> inode is no longer shrinkable, drop the scan entry.
>>>>
>>>> This can be tested with the shrinker debugfs interface by allocating 32
>>>> tmpfs tail THPs in each of two memcgs, then scanning the sb-tmpfs
>>>> shrinker
>>>> with memcg A's cgroup id:
>>>>
>>>> before A scan after A scan
>>>> base A=64M, B=64M A=0, B=0
>>>> patched A=64M, B=64M A=0, B=64M
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
>>>> ---
>>>
>>> Thanks for your patch. This work has been on my TODO list for a while :)
>>>
>>> Overall it looks good. I'll take a closer look and run some tests.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>>
>>>> This patch is based on next-20260701 because it doesn't include this
>>>> patch:
>>>>
>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260609123047.1948242-1-
>>>> usama.arif@linux.dev/
>>>>
>>>> Later on, Usama will consider moving this restriction down into the
>>>> fs callback.
>>>>
>>>> include/linux/shmem_fs.h | 14 +-
>>>> mm/shmem.c | 379 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> +---------
>>>> 2 files changed, 310 insertions(+), 83 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/shmem_fs.h b/include/linux/shmem_fs.h
>>>> index e729b9b0e38d4..0b14de1e890a9 100644
>>>> --- a/include/linux/shmem_fs.h
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/shmem_fs.h
>>>> @@ -11,6 +11,7 @@
>>>> #include <linux/fs_parser.h>
>>>> #include <linux/userfaultfd_k.h>
>>>> #include <linux/bits.h>
>>>> +#include <linux/list_lru.h>
>>>> struct swap_iocb;
>>>> @@ -56,6 +57,13 @@ struct shmem_inode_info {
>>>> struct dquot __rcu *i_dquot[MAXQUOTAS];
>>>> #endif
>>>> struct inode vfs_inode;
>>>> +
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE
>>>> + struct list_head shrinklist_scan;
>>>
>>> Why introduce another list_head member? Why can't we reuse
>>> 'shrinklist' in this structure? In other words, if we isolate this
>>> inode from list_lru, then 'inode_info->shrinklist' can be reused to
>>> link it into the temporary list, right?
>>
>> After list_lru isolation, the shrinker drops the list_lru lock and
>> processes the inode on a local scan list. During that time, shmem
>> faults can make the inode's current tail huge folio change, and
>> shmem_unused_huge_add() may need to queue the same inode again on
>> the active list_lru, possibly under a different memcg/node sublist.
>>
>> If we reused info->shrinklist for the temporary scan list, then while
>> the inode is being scanned:
>>
>> 1. info->shrinklist would be non-empty because it is on the local scan
>> list, so shmem_unused_huge_add() could not tell that the inode is no
>> longer on the active list_lru.
>> 2. Re-adding it to list_lru with the same list_head would corrupt the
>> local scan list.
>
> Right. Just some preliminary thoughts:
>
> If the current inode needs to be re-added to the list_lru, it means the
> inode's i_size has changed. If 'info->shrinklist' is on the temporary
> list at this point, we can follow the same logic as the original 'info-
> >shrinklist' handling and simply skip the re-adding to list_lru.
> Instead, we can let shmem_unused_huge_shrink() get the end folio via
> filemap_get_entry(i_size), and then check the memcg and nid — if they
> differ from the 'sc', we can re-add the inode back to the list_lru in
> shmem_unused_huge_shrink().
That also sounds workable.
>
> Of course, there may be other races that need to be considered as well.
I will look into it.
>
> In any case, we should try to avoid adding too many members to the
> 'shmem_inode_info' struct, since when there are many tmpfs files this
> could introduce noticeable memory overhead.
Got it.
Thanks,
Qi
>
>> 3. Skipping the add would lose the new current tail huge folio if the
>> scan later drops the old scan entry instead of requeueing it.
>>
>> So isolation removes the inode from the active list_lru and leaves
>> info->shrinklist empty. A concurrent fault can safely add the inode back
>> to the active list_lru with the current folio's memcg/node, while the
>> shrinker still owns the old scan entry through shrinklist_scan. The scan
>> loop then detects that re-add and drops the stale scan entry, leaving
>> the active entry for a later scan.
>>
>>>
>>>> + struct mem_cgroup *shrinklist_memcg;
>>>> + int shrinklist_nid;
>>>> + bool shrinklist_isolated;
>>>
>>> Do we need an extra bool to indicate whether it's isolated? Can't we
>>> just use 'list_empty(inode_info->shrinklist)'? I may have missed some
>>> details.
>>
>> list_empty(info->shrinklist) cannot be used for this. That list node
>> tracks active list_lru membership only. But you are right that the
>> explicit bool is not necessary, we can use list_empty(&info-
>> >shrinklist_scan) instead.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Qi
>>
>>
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-20 2:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-14 3:19 [PATCH] mm: shmem: make unused huge shrinker memcg aware Qi Zheng
2026-07-15 4:32 ` Andrew Morton
2026-07-15 6:49 ` Qi Zheng
2026-07-15 19:40 ` Andrew Morton
2026-07-16 2:20 ` Qi Zheng
2026-07-15 9:37 ` Baolin Wang
2026-07-15 9:55 ` Qi Zheng
2026-07-17 12:50 ` Baolin Wang
2026-07-20 2:23 ` Qi Zheng [this message]
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