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From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>, dave.hansen@intel.com
Cc: dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, will@kernel.org,
	aneesh.kumar@kernel.org, npiggin@gmail.com, peterz@infradead.org,
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	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	dev.jain@arm.com, baohua@kernel.org, shy828301@gmail.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v3 1/2] mm/tlb: skip redundant IPI when TLB flush already synchronized
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 23:30:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f45a1760-7fa6-4e2c-ba5a-90e250a5792a@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4d94363b-5b3b-4401-a9d8-da136d71f8c3@kernel.org>



On 2026/1/9 22:13, David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) wrote:
> 
>>> What could work is tracking "tlb_table_flush_sent_ipi" really when we
>>> are flushing the TLB for removed/unshared tables, and maybe resetting
>>> it ... I don't know when from the top of my head.
>>
>> Not sure what's the best way forward here :(
>>
>>>
>>> v2 was simpler IMHO.
>>
>> The main concern Dave raised was that with PV hypercalls or when
>> INVLPGB is available, we can't tell from a static check whether IPIs
>> were actually sent.
> 
> Why can't we set the boolean at runtime when initializing the pv_ops 
> structure, when we are sure that it is allowed?

Yes, thanks, that sounds like a reasonable trade-off :)

As you mentioned:

"this lifetime stuff in core-mm ends up getting more complicated than
v2 without a clear benefit".

I totally agree that v3 is too complicated :(

But Dave's concern about v2 was that we can't accurately tell whether
IPIs were actually sent in PV environments or with INVLPGB, which
misses optimization opportunities. The INVLPGB+no_global_asid case
also sends IPIs during TLB flush.

Anyway, yeah, I'd rather start with a simple approach, even if it's
not perfect. We can always improve it later ;)

Any ideas on how to move forward?

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-09 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-06 12:03 [PATCH RESEND v3 0/2] skip redundant TLB sync IPIs Lance Yang
2026-01-06 12:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 1/2] mm/tlb: skip redundant IPI when TLB flush already synchronized Lance Yang
2026-01-06 15:19   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-06 16:10     ` Lance Yang
2026-01-07  6:37       ` Lance Yang
2026-01-09 14:11         ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-09 14:13       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-09 15:30         ` Lance Yang [this message]
2026-01-09 15:40           ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-06 16:24   ` Dave Hansen
2026-01-07  2:47     ` Lance Yang
2026-01-06 12:03 ` [PATCH RESEND v3 2/2] mm: introduce pmdp_collapse_flush_sync() to skip redundant IPI Lance Yang
2026-01-06 15:07   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-06 15:41     ` Lance Yang
2026-01-07  9:46   ` kernel test robot
2026-01-07 10:52   ` kernel test robot

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