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From: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	Andi Shyti <andi.shyti@kernel.org>
Cc: Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.com>,
	"linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org" <linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] i2c: i801: Switch to iomapped register access
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 21:26:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f47ebf6f-4cae-4868-98de-7c6a1d2634c9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHp75VcskbS7mxQxFwhqdSH-KMKLG6E8oeRDV8VhmK=FE2NiXA@mail.gmail.com>

On 19.03.2025 20:48, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 9:33 PM Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 19.03.2025 09:23, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 9:17 AM Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 19.03.2025 00:22, Andi Shyti wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 12:18:47AM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>>>>>> Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 08:07:23PM +0100, Heiner Kallweit kirjoitti:
>>>
>>>>>>> Switch to iomapped register access as a prerequisite for adding
>>>>>>> support for MMIO register access.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe that I at least discussed the similar change a few years ago or even
>>>>>> proposed a one. The problem here is that *_p() variants of IO port accessors
>>>>>> are not the same as non-_p ones. And commit message is kept silent about
>>>>>> possible consequences of this change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, at bare minumum it would be good to test for some period of time before
>>>>>> going for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> How would you do it?
>>>>
>>>> Documentation/driver-api/device-io.rst states that the artificially delayed
>>>> _p versions were needed on ISA devices. And in general I didn't find any hint
>>>> that the non-delayed versions ever caused issues on PCI devices.
>>>
>>> At least put this in the commit message. It will show that you were aware of _p.
>>>
>>>> On my system using the non-delayed version works fine, but I can't say 100%
>>>> that it's the same for the very first (> 25 yrs ago) chipsets supported by i801.
>>>>
>>>> Likely users with old systems don't run -next kernels, therefore leaving
>>>> this change a full cycle in -next may not really help. We can argue that
>>>> we have the -rc period for testing (and reverting if needed).
>>>
>>> My main concern is to make no regressions for most currently used
>>> cases, that's why one cycle in Linux Next is better than none.
>>
>> Even ICH7 datasheet from 2012 mentions that SMBus register space is also
>> memory-mapped. So all systems from at least the last 10 yrs should use MMIO
>> instead of PMIO now, and therefore not be affected by switching to non-delayed
>> PMIO access. This should significantly reduce the risk you're referring to.
> 
> Cool! So, can we just put a summary into the commit message of all
> findings, worries (or their absence)?
> 
Sure. Would be a question to Andi how this should be done technically.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-19 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-12 19:06 [PATCH 0/2] i2c: i801: Use MMIO if available Heiner Kallweit
2025-03-12 19:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] i2c: i801: Switch to iomapped register access Heiner Kallweit
2025-03-18 22:18   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-18 23:22     ` Andi Shyti
2025-03-19  7:17       ` Heiner Kallweit
2025-03-19  8:23         ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-19 19:33           ` Heiner Kallweit
2025-03-19 19:48             ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-19 20:26               ` Heiner Kallweit [this message]
2025-03-19 21:53                 ` Andi Shyti
2025-03-20 20:06                   ` Heiner Kallweit
2025-03-20 21:06                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-03-20 21:10                     ` Andi Shyti
2025-03-12 19:08 ` [PATCH 2/2] i2c: i801: Use MMIO if available Heiner Kallweit
2025-03-12 23:58 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Andi Shyti

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