From: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
To: Kohei Enju <enju.kohei@fujitsu.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, maz@kernel.org,
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lpieralisi@kernel.org,
Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v17 0/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Add RMM v2.0 base RMI support
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2026 06:46:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f65216f6-cb7b-4b76-a7cc-79b332db2bd8@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ap-C6NLnxuWWTMzi@FCCLS0092175.localdomain>
Hi Kohei-San
Linaro is best suited to answer this. I have Cc'ed Mathieu (and
Lorenzo), who may be able to help you here.
On 08/09/2026 05:09, Kohei Enju wrote:
> Hi Suzuki,
>
> On 09/07 10:59, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
>> This series adds the generic firmware layer for talking to the Realm
>> Management Monitor (RMM), as specified by the RMM v2.0-bet3
>> specification[1]. It is the first part of the Arm CCA host support that
>> was previously posted as part of the larger KVM series.
>>
>> The split allows this RMM support to be used as a base for other work,
>> including Aneesh's PCI IDE support with Arm CCA RMM as the TSM,
>> without depending on the KVM Realm support that will follow as separate
>> series. (See more on that below)
>>
>> The series adds:
>>
>> * The RMI SMC definitions and direct-call wrappers.
>>
>> * RMM discovery and version checks during firmware init.
>>
>> * RMM host configuration, including the host page size.
>>
>> * Stateful RMI Operation (SRO) infrastructure for commands which the RMM
>> can complete across multiple SMC calls while requesting or returning
>> memory to the host.
>>
>> * Verification that granule tracking is available at fine granularity.
>> Fine-grained tracking allows each granule in the system to be tracked
>> independently, which is required before individual granules can be
>> delegated. A future series will add support for dynamically supplying
>> memory to the RMM for this tracking.
>>
>> * Support for fully firmware-managed systems, where the Granule Protection
>> Tables for memory regions are allocated and managed by firmware. RMM v2.0
>> also allows dynamic GPT creation on demand; support for that will be added
>> in a later series.
>>
>> * Wrappers for the RMI commands that are used for managing the "Realm VM"
>> lifecycle. This is added in to make it easier for the on-going KVM support
>> to evolve in parallel pieces.
>>
>> If the platform firmware cannot manage the granule tracking or the GPTs, we
>> bail out and deactivate the RMM, reclaiming any memory that we have donated.
>>
>> The RMM v2.0 spec introduces Stateful RMI Operations (SROs), which allow
>> the RMM to complete an operation over several SMC calls while requesting
>> or returning memory to the host. This allows interrupts to be handled in
>> the middle of an operation and lets the RMM dynamically allocate memory
>> for internal tracking purposes. For example, RMI_REC_CREATE no longer
>> needs auxiliary granules to be provided up front, and can instead
>> request memory during the operation.
>>
>> This series applies on v7.3-rc1 and a branch is available at [2]. The KVM
>> CCA support that builds on this series is available at [3] as an integration
>> branch. The KVM support depends on guest-memfd-in-place conversion support v12
>> from Ackerley [4], we plan to split that into parts, which apply cleanly on
>> v7.3-rcx without any dependency and is in progress. This will be made available
>> as soon as it is ready. Until then [3] shows how this base series enables KVM
>> CCA support. You may find the tf-RMM [5] and kvmtool support [6] below.
>>
>> [1] RMM spec : https://support.arm.com/documentation/den0137/2-0bet3/
>> [2] This series: https://gitlab.arm.com/linux-arm/linux-cca.git cca/cca-host/fw_rmm/v17
>> [3] KVM CCA v17 integration branch: https://gitlab.arm.com/linux-arm/linux-cca.git cca/cca-host/kvm-integration/v17
>> [4] Gmem inplace conversion https://github.com/googleprodkernel/linux-cc/tree/guest_memfd-inplace-conversion-v12
>> [5] TF-RMM https://git.trustedfirmware.org/TF-RMM/tf-rmm.git main (commit: 134266ae)
>
> I understand that QEMU-virt is not intended to model a realistic
> production platform and that QEMU-SBSA is generally preferred. However,
> I sometimes use QEMU-virt to test functionality quickly because it runs
> slightly faster than QEMU-SBSA.
>
> I tested this series with QEMU-virt and found that RMM initialization
> failed during boot:
>
> [...]
> INFO: BL31: Initializing RMM
> INFO: RMM init start.
> ERROR: RMM init failed: -8
> WARNING: BL31: RMM initialization failed
>
> The following TF-A revision was used:
> https://git.trustedfirmware.org/TF-A/trusted-firmware-a.git master (38269bb)
>
> After investigating, I found that the failure was caused by the lack of
> a plat_rmmd_reserve_memory() implementation for the QEMU-virt platform
> in TF-A. Adding an implementation equivalent to the QEMU-SBSA one
> resolved the issue:
> https://git.trustedfirmware.org/plugins/gitiles/TF-A/trusted-firmware-a.git/+/9d594743aa4d4e8160cdf025ea7538041648972c
>
> Is QEMU virt still intended to be supported as an RME emulation
> platform? In particular, is this functionality simply not implemented
> yet, or is there a reason why RME support is not planned for QEMU virt?
>
> If this is not the appropriate place to discuss this, please let me
Mathieu, Lorenzo,
Over to you folks :-)
Cheers
Suzuki
> know :)
>
> Thanks,
> Kohei
>
>> [6] kvmtool https://gitlab.arm.com/linux-arm/kvmtool-cca.git cca/kvm-v17
>>
>> Known issues: RMMv2.0
>> * RmiOpMemDonateReq:count (Uint14) is incompatible with RmiAddrRangeDesc4KB
>> (Uint10) and RmiAddrRangeDesc16KB (Uint12). i.e., a larger contiguous request
>> may not be satisfiable by the host. Arm is aware of this defect and a spec fix
>> is in progress.
>>
>>
>> Steven Price (7):
>> firmware: arm_rmm: Add SMC definitions for calling the RMM
>> firmware: arm_rmm: Check for RMI support at init
>> firmware: arm_rmm: Configure the RMM with the host's page size
>> firmware: arm_rmm: Add support for SRO
>> firmware: arm_rmm: Activate the RMM
>> firmware: arm_rmm: Ensure the RMM has GPT entries for memory
>> firmware: arm_rmm: Add wrappers for Realm related RMI commands
>>
>> arch/arm64/Kconfig | 1 +
>> arch/arm64/kernel/cpufeature.c | 1 +
>> drivers/firmware/Kconfig | 1 +
>> drivers/firmware/Makefile | 1 +
>> drivers/firmware/arm_rmm/Kconfig | 26 +
>> drivers/firmware/arm_rmm/Makefile | 2 +
>> drivers/firmware/arm_rmm/rmi.c | 819 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> include/linux/arm-rmi-cmds.h | 678 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> include/linux/arm-smccc-rmi.h | 494 ++++++++++++++++++
>> 9 files changed, 2023 insertions(+)
>> create mode 100644 drivers/firmware/arm_rmm/Kconfig
>> create mode 100644 drivers/firmware/arm_rmm/Makefile
>> create mode 100644 drivers/firmware/arm_rmm/rmi.c
>> create mode 100644 include/linux/arm-rmi-cmds.h
>> create mode 100644 include/linux/arm-smccc-rmi.h
>>
>> --
>> 2.43.0
>>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-08 5:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-07 9:59 [PATCH v17 0/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Add RMM v2.0 base RMI support Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-07 9:59 ` [PATCH v17 1/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Add SMC definitions for calling the RMM Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-08 6:19 ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-08 10:37 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-08 22:41 ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-09 8:39 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-10 9:47 ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-10 9:54 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-07 9:59 ` [PATCH v17 2/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Check for RMI support at init Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-08 6:46 ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-08 9:49 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-07 9:59 ` [PATCH v17 3/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Configure the RMM with the host's page size Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-07 10:14 ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-07 12:02 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-07 22:40 ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-08 9:58 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-08 7:04 ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-08 8:00 ` Kohei Enju
2026-09-08 10:59 ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-09 2:01 ` Kohei Enju
2026-09-08 10:43 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-07 9:59 ` [PATCH v17 4/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Add support for SRO Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-07 10:14 ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-08 22:10 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-09 4:10 ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-10 9:51 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-11 15:29 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-07 9:59 ` [PATCH v17 5/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Activate the RMM Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-07 10:17 ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-07 16:16 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-09 4:29 ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-09 8:25 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-07 9:59 ` [PATCH v17 6/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Ensure the RMM has GPT entries for memory Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-09 6:40 ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-09 8:33 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-07 9:59 ` [PATCH v17 7/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Add wrappers for Realm related RMI commands Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-07 10:10 ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-07 12:20 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-09 7:15 ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-09 8:55 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-08 4:09 ` [PATCH v17 0/7] firmware: arm_rmm: Add RMM v2.0 base RMI support Kohei Enju
2026-09-08 5:46 ` Suzuki K Poulose [this message]
2026-09-08 7:30 ` Kohei Enju
2026-09-09 10:52 ` Gavin Shan
2026-09-10 4:51 ` Kohei Enju
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