From: Florian Fainelli via buildroot <buildroot@buildroot.org>
To: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>
Cc: buildroot@buildroot.org,
"Eric Le Bihan" <eric.le.bihan.dev@free.fr>,
"Gary Bisson" <bisson.gary@gmail.com>,
"Jérôme Pouiller" <jezz@sysmic.org>,
"Bernd Kuhls" <bernd@kuhls.net>,
"Thomas Perale" <thomas.perale@mind.be>,
"Maxime Chevallier" <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
"Refik Tuzakli" <tuzakli.refik@gmail.com>,
"Francois Perrad" <francois.perrad.86@gmail.com>,
"Arnout Vandecappelle" <arnout@rnout.be>,
"Petr Vorel" <petr.vorel@gmail.com>,
"Spenser Gilliland" <spenser@gillilanding.com>,
"Giulio Benetti" <giulio.benetti@benettiengineering.com>,
"Pascal de Bruijn" <p.debruijn@unilogic.nl>,
"Luca Ceresoli" <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>,
"Romain Naour" <romain.naour@gmail.com>,
"Mahyar Koshkouei" <mahyar.koshkouei@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Buildroot] [PATCH 00/23] Support building the Linux kernel out of tree with LINUX_OVERRIDE_SRCDIR
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2026 14:49:53 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fceb1e19-e9d3-4342-b1c3-d10e175dc47d@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <at0YSHfI0gcUfMtX@windsurf>
On 10/24/26 13:44, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> Hello Florian,
>
> Wow, blast from the past here. Tough (but interesting!) topic.
Indeed, this had been bugging me for a long time, so here we go again.
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2026 at 02:47:44PM -0700, Florian Fainelli via buildroot wrote:
>
>> Patch 9, the kernel:
>> - add <pkg>_SUPPORTS_OUT_OF_TREE. When it is YES and <pkg>_OVERRIDE_SRCDIR
>> is set, the rsync step is skipped, the stamp files go in the build
>> directory and kconfig is called with -C $(SRCDIR) O=$(BUILDDIR);
>> - opt linux in, in the same patch. Kbuild requires a clean source tree
>> for O=: a tree with a stale .config, include/config or
>> arch/*/include/generated is rejected by kbuild itself.
>
> So it means out of tree build is only used when <pkg>_OVERRIDE_SRCDIR
> is used, and for a "normal" build, you still use in-tree build? (Note:
> I didn't check the patches yet).
Correct. Out-of-tree is only used when <pkg>_OVERRIDE_SRCDIR is set and
the package opts in with <pkg>_SUPPORTS_OUT_OF_TREE = YES (only linux
for now).
For a normal build the tarball is extracted into the build directory as
before, and _SRCDIR, _BUILDDIR and _DIR are all the same directory, so
there is no change for any package. The goal is to avoid the rsync of a
developer's source tree, which does not exist for a downloaded tarball.
Other packages could opt in later with the same variable if there is
interest.
>
> If we were to merge something like this, we would need to switch to
> out-of-tree build completely, not just for the specific
> <pkg>_OVERRIDE_SRCDIR situation.
I wonder if this makes sense however, not arguing about it, but trying
to think whether it brings anything?
--
Florian
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2026-10-23 21:47 [Buildroot] [PATCH 00/23] Support building the Linux kernel out of tree with LINUX_OVERRIDE_SRCDIR Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:47 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 01/23] package: prepare removal of <pkg>_DIR Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:47 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 02/23] infra: introduce a global SRC_DIR variable Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:47 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 03/23] package: fix <pkg>_SRCDIR and <pkg>_BUILDDIR values Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:47 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 04/23] boot/boot-wrapper-aarch64: needs LINUX_BUILDDIR Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:47 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 05/23] boot/mxs-bootlets: needs (BAREBOX, LINUX, UBOOT)_BUILDDIR Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:47 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 06/23] linux/extensions: point to proper _SRCDIR and @D Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:47 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 07/23] linux/linux: LINUX_VERSION_PROBED should run from build directory Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 08/23] package: use <pkg>_SRCSUBDIR where <pkg>_SRCDIR used to include _SUBDIR Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 09/23] linux: build out of tree when LINUX_OVERRIDE_SRCDIR is set Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 10/23] packages: sync host and target patch hooks Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 11/23] omniorb: avoid target-only patch hook Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 12/23] lua: rework post-patch hook usage Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-24 10:46 ` François PERRAD
2026-10-27 16:43 ` Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 13/23] infra: host packages inherit the target extra downloads Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 14/23] package/libtool: use post-patch hooks Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 15/23] package/libtool: also apply libtool-patch to host libtool Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 16/23] package/{ffmpeg, libvpx}: use $(@D) instead of $(pkg_SRCDIR) when possible Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 17/23] package/perl: apply the perl-cross even for the host variant Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-24 10:20 ` François PERRAD
2026-10-27 16:44 ` Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 18/23] infra/autotools: warn for package that autoreconf without libtool patch Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 19/23] packages: replace $(PKG)_DIR with @D where possible Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 20/23] linux: support custom logo and devicetree files in out-of-tree builds Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 21/23] package/linux-tools: support an out-of-tree kernel build Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 22/23] package: read kernel headers from LINUX_SRCDIR Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-23 21:51 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 23/23] docs/manual: document out-of-tree package builds and the new srcdir variables Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-24 20:44 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 00/23] Support building the Linux kernel out of tree with LINUX_OVERRIDE_SRCDIR Thomas Petazzoni via buildroot
2026-10-26 21:49 ` Florian Fainelli via buildroot [this message]
2026-10-27 8:14 ` Arnout Vandecappelle via buildroot
2026-10-27 8:26 ` Thomas Petazzoni via buildroot
2026-10-27 8:43 ` Arnout Vandecappelle via buildroot
2026-10-27 12:41 ` Thomas Petazzoni via buildroot
2026-10-27 12:44 ` Thomas Petazzoni via buildroot
2026-10-27 13:53 ` Arnout Vandecappelle via buildroot
2026-10-27 16:53 ` Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-27 19:22 ` Thomas Petazzoni via buildroot
2026-10-27 19:56 ` Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-28 18:16 ` Thomas Petazzoni via buildroot
2026-10-28 18:35 ` Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-28 19:26 ` Thomas Petazzoni via buildroot
2026-10-27 20:32 ` Fiona Klute via buildroot
2026-10-28 18:18 ` Thomas Petazzoni via buildroot
2026-10-28 18:34 ` Florian Fainelli via buildroot
2026-10-28 19:26 ` Thomas Petazzoni via buildroot
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