From: Chuck Zmudzinski <brchuckz@aol.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
"Roger Pau Monné" <roger@xenproject.org>,
"Teddy Astie" <teddy.astie@vates.tech>,
"Tomita Moeko" <tomitamoeko@gmail.com>,
xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] tools/hvmloader: implement Intel IGD extended VBT support
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2026 12:04:33 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fdec0b6b-eddf-4a36-a755-c67963daa9ea@aol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d6e603bf-8dc5-4ac7-842f-ff9d1f67b98f@suse.com>
On 8/17/2026 4:42 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 14.08.2026 17:23, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
>> On 8/14/2026 9:46 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> On 14.08.2026 15:18, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
>>>> On 8/14/2026 3:35 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> On 14.08.2026 02:45, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/13/2026 6:35 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>> On 02.08.2026 07:08, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
>>>>>>>> -- snip --
>>>>>>>> + /*
>>>>>>>> + * Write rvda_host as 2 successive 32-bit values
>>>>>>>> + * to communicate location of the VBT to the device
>>>>>>>> + * model. If rvda_host is not 0, The device model
>>>>>>>> + * unmaps the OpRegion and eventually maps the VBT
>>>>>>>> + * after we also write the guest address where the
>>>>>>>> + * VBT will be mapped.
>>>>>>>> + *
>>>>>>>> + * If we send rvda_host = 0 to the device model, it
>>>>>>>> + * will assume we do not need OpRegion 2 support and
>>>>>>>> + * it will not unmap the OpRegion.
>>>>>>>> + */
>>>>>>>> + pci_writel(vga_devfn, PCI_INTEL_OPREGION,
>>>>>>>> + (uint32_t)(rvda_host & 0xfffffffful));
>>>>>>>> + unsigned long rvda_host_upper_32 = (uint64_t)rvda_host >> 32;
>>>>>>>> + pci_writel(vga_devfn, PCI_INTEL_OPREGION,
>>>>>>>> + (uint32_t)rvda_host_upper_32);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why would you need to communicate a host property to the DM?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The DM cannot access the host rvda value because it is only accessible
>>>>>> from the host kernel, and the DM is only a user-space process on the host.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't follow this: Anything the guest can access should also be accessible
>>>>> by its DM.
>>>>
>>>> I think the host OpRegion is not currently accessible by the DM.
>>>
>>> Can you explain to me how the region becomes accessible to the guest?
>>> That would then (hopefully) help me understand why the DM would not have
>>> access. Fundamentally any MMIO and any I/O ports that are assigned to a
>>> guest are also assigned to its DM.
>>
>> Currently, in the device model (Qemu) we have:
>>
>> ret = xc_domain_memory_mapping(xen_xc, xen_domid,
>> (unsigned long)(igd_guest_opregion >> XC_PAGE_SHIFT),
>> (unsigned long)(igd_host_opregion >> XC_PAGE_SHIFT),
>> XEN_PCI_INTEL_OPREGION_PAGES,
>> DPCI_ADD_MAPPING);
>>
>> That statement is in the igd_write_opregion(...) function in the
>> hw/xen/xen_pt_graphics.c file of the upstream Qemu source.
>>
>> If I understand our current implementation correctly, this statement
>> is what gives the guest access to the host OpRegion (3 pages as defined
>> by XEN_PCI_INTEL_OPREGION_PAGES, and in agreement with IGD_OPREGION_PAGES
>> in hvmloader code).
>
> No, it introduces mappings of those pages into the guest's P2M.
>
>> I don't think this statement makes the host OpRegion
>> accessible to the device model, though, so I think, if I understand your
>> comment in an earlier about my patch resulting in what you called a "layering
>> violation" correctly, that our current implementation is also guilty of this
>> same kind of "layering violation."
>
> That code, if it can be successfully executed, indeed doesn't grant any
> permissions (to the DM or the guest). Instead it proves that the DM has the
> needed permissions to access the pages itself.
So, are you saying it should be possible, without any patches to either Xen or
the Linux kernel, for Qemu to get a pointer to the OpRegion? If so, how?
I think I could implement what you proposed in an earlier message and do
all (or most) of this in the DM instead of here in hvmloader:
> The more correct thing to do might be for the DM to
> put in place a copy before the guest (i.e. hvmloader) even gains control.
> (How in turn the DM would learn of the contents of the opregion is a
> separate question then.)
Actually, when I was developing this patch, I tried first to do it that
way, but the problem was, I could not find a way to get a pointer to the
host OpRegion in Qemu.
So, how can I get a pointer to the host OpRegion in Qemu?
This is what the handling of
> XEN_DOMCTL_memory_mapping has in this regard:
>
> ret = -EPERM;
> if ( !iomem_access_permitted(current->domain, mfn, mfn_end) )
> /* Nothing. */;
>
> Subsequently we check that the guest is also permitted access:
>
> else if ( iomem_access_permitted(d, mfn, mfn_end) )
>
> Jan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-17 16:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20260802050824.10554-1-brchuckz.ref@aol.com>
2026-08-02 5:08 ` [PATCH v2] tools/hvmloader: implement Intel IGD extended VBT support Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-13 10:35 ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-14 0:45 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-14 7:35 ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-14 13:18 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-14 13:46 ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-14 15:23 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-14 16:18 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-14 19:13 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-14 17:07 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-17 8:42 ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-17 16:04 ` Chuck Zmudzinski [this message]
2026-08-17 17:04 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-18 7:17 ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-18 11:52 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-18 12:18 ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-18 12:29 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-18 17:15 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-19 7:30 ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-19 12:16 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-19 12:36 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-19 13:51 ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-19 15:47 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-19 17:49 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-19 19:09 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-20 7:58 ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-20 13:03 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-20 14:58 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-20 7:53 ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-20 13:03 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-19 17:13 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-20 7:51 ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-20 11:47 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-20 15:17 ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-20 16:53 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-21 8:19 ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-21 13:12 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-19 12:10 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-15 2:22 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-17 9:11 ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-16 16:38 ` Chuck Zmudzinski
2026-08-17 9:18 ` Jan Beulich
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