From: "Grumbach, Emmanuel" <emmanuel.grumbach@intel.com>
To: "mmaddireddy@nvidia.com" <mmaddireddy@nvidia.com>,
"helgaas@kernel.org" <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: "thierry.reding@kernel.org" <thierry.reding@kernel.org>,
"lukas@wunner.de" <lukas@wunner.de>,
"Korenblit, Miriam Rachel" <miriam.rachel.korenblit@intel.com>,
"sashiko-reviews@lists.linux.dev"
<sashiko-reviews@lists.linux.dev>,
"treding@nvidia.com" <treding@nvidia.com>,
"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: Disable NoSnoop and Relaxed ordering for Intel wireless BE200
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2026 18:45:29 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fe27839dfc8c33104ea215912cb7d33c85435fe6.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260730172807.GA1508799@bhelgaas>
On Thu, 2026-07-30 at 12:28 -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2026 at 10:21:06AM +0530, Manikanta Maddireddy wrote:
> > On 29/07/26 12:19 pm, Grumbach, Emmanuel wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2026-07-28 at 15:18 -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2026 at 07:47:04PM +0000, Grumbach, Emmanuel
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 2026-07-28 at 14:24 -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2026 at 06:21:23PM +0000, Grumbach,
> > > > > > Emmanuel
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, 2026-07-28 at 13:03 -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > AFAICS we still don't know why Tegra264 would set
> > > > > > > > NoSnoop and/or RlxdOrd in the MMIO read.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Me neither but... I can't comment on that. And de-facto,
> > > > > > > once it does that, the BE200 replies with the NoSnoop and
> > > > > > > RlxOrd clear in the TLP which is then considered as a
> > > > > > > malformed TLP.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Unless iwlwifi asked for NoSnoop and/or RlxdOrd to be
> > > > > > > > set, I think it's a potential problem for drivers if
> > > > > > > > Tegra264 sets them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I ... don't think we would do that. The driver would
> > > > > > > certainly not do that... Regarding the hardware itself, I
> > > > > > > can't comment, but I can check internally.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Forgot to ask, can you collect the output of "sudo lspci
> > > > > > -vv", at least for the RP and the BE200?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And maybe the dmesg log when booted with "log_buf_len=16M
> > > > > > pci=earlydump" as well, so we can see if attributes were
> > > > > > enabled by a bootloader?
> > > > >
> > > > > I assume you want all this without the quirk, right?
> > > >
> > > > Right.
> > >
> > > Attached.
> > > Note that we used an out-of-tree driver in those attempts so the
> > > kernel is tainted, but this does not impact the issue we're
> > > discussing here.
> >
> > PCI_EXP_DEVCTL_RELAX_EN and PCI_EXP_DEVCTL_NOSNOOP_EN are set by HW
> > default value, this is inline with PCIe spec. It says "the default
> > value of this bit is 1b" in both cases.
>
> Huh, you're right. I was assuming 0b was the default, but indeed 1b
> is the default unless they're hardwired to 0. And they're both set
> to
> 1b on my x86 (AMD) Root Ports as well.
Not on my Intel Root port:
00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Alder Lake PCI Express Root Port
<Snip>
Capabilities: [40] Express (v2) Root Port (Slot+), IntMsgNum 0
DevCap: MaxPayload 256 bytes, PhantFunc 0
ExtTag- RBE+ TEE-IO-
DevCtl: CorrErr- NonFatalErr- FatalErr- UnsupReq-
RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop-
MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
>
> So I would think we'd see this Malformed TLP error on pretty much
> every system with BE200 in it.
I guess that BE200 is almost only plugged into Intel systems which is
why this bug went unnoticed until now..
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-30 18:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-21 6:54 [PATCH] PCI: Disable NoSnoop and Relaxed ordering for Intel wireless BE200 Emmanuel Grumbach
2026-06-21 7:12 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-21 7:30 ` Grumbach, Emmanuel
2026-07-22 14:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-07-22 15:14 ` Grumbach, Emmanuel
2026-07-22 17:04 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-07-23 9:49 ` Manikanta Maddireddy
2026-07-23 11:35 ` Grumbach, Emmanuel
2026-07-24 10:54 ` Manikanta Maddireddy
2026-07-28 18:03 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-07-28 18:21 ` Grumbach, Emmanuel
2026-07-28 19:11 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-07-28 19:16 ` Grumbach, Emmanuel
2026-07-28 19:24 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-07-28 19:47 ` Grumbach, Emmanuel
2026-07-28 20:18 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-07-29 6:49 ` Grumbach, Emmanuel
2026-07-30 4:51 ` Manikanta Maddireddy
2026-07-30 17:28 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-07-30 18:45 ` Grumbach, Emmanuel [this message]
2026-07-30 20:08 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-07-30 20:16 ` Grumbach, Emmanuel
2026-07-23 6:47 ` Lukas Wunner
2026-06-21 8:10 ` Lukas Wunner
2026-06-21 8:28 ` Grumbach, Emmanuel
2026-07-22 11:01 ` Grumbach, Emmanuel
2026-07-22 14:36 ` Lukas Wunner
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