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From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: "Xen developer discussion" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	"Marek Marczykowski-Górecki" <marmarek@invisiblethingslab.com>
Subject: Re: “Backend has not unmapped grant” errors
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 09:48:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fe4aa229-2d3b-2bc7-e906-bb61a5d45f6d@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YwSEXonOg1CMzeQv@itl-email>


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On 23.08.22 09:40, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
> I recently had a VM’s /dev/xvdb stop working with a “backend has not
> unmapped grant” error.  Since /dev/xvdb was the VM’s private volume,
> that rendered the VM effectively useless.  I had to kill it with
> qvm-kill.
> 
> The backend of /dev/xvdb is dom0, so a malicious backend is clearly not
> the cause of this.  I believe the actual cause is a race condition, such
> as the following:
> 
> 1. GUI agent in VM allocates grant X.
> 2. GUI agent tells GUI daemon in dom0 to map X.
> 3. GUI agent frees grant X.
> 4. blkfront allocates grant X and passes it to dom0.
> 5. dom0’s blkback maps grant X.
> 6. blkback unmaps grant X.
> 7. GUI daemon maps grant X.
> 8. blkfront tries to revoke access to grant X and fails.  Disaster
>     ensues.
> 
> What could be done to prevent this race?  Right now all of the
> approaches I can think of are horribly backwards-incompatible.  They
> require replacing grant IDs with some sort of handle, and requiring
> userspace to pass these handles to ioctls.  It is also possible that
> netfront and blkfront could race against each other in a way that causes
> this, though I suspect that race would be much harder to trigger.
> 
> This has happened more than once so it is not a fluke due to e.g. cosmic
> rays or other random bit-flips.
> 
> Marek, do you have any suggestions?

To me that sounds like the interface of the GUI is the culprit.

The GUI agent in the guest should only free a grant, if it got a message
from the backend that it can do so. Just assuming to be able to free it
because it isn't in use currently is the broken assumption here.


Juergen

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-23  7:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-23  7:40 “Backend has not unmapped grant” errors Demi Marie Obenour
2022-08-23  7:48 ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2022-08-24  0:20   ` Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
2022-08-24  6:02     ` Juergen Gross
2022-08-24  6:30       ` Jan Beulich
2022-08-24  6:36         ` Juergen Gross
2022-08-24  6:40           ` Jan Beulich
2022-08-24 17:44       ` SeongJae Park
2022-08-24 20:38         ` SeongJae Park
2022-08-25  6:20           ` Juergen Gross
2022-08-25 16:22             ` SeongJae Park
2022-08-24  6:11     ` Juergen Gross
2022-08-28  5:15       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2022-08-29 12:55         ` Juergen Gross
2022-08-29 14:39           ` Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
2022-08-29 16:03             ` Juergen Gross
2022-08-29 18:32             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2022-08-29 18:54           ` Demi Marie Obenour

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