From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: "Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)" <kernel@pankajraghav.com>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
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"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
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Pankaj Raghav <p.raghav@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: add persistent huge zero folio
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 14:02:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff1dcd4b-db64-4982-bfc5-78db033f61d8@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250808121141.624469-4-kernel@pankajraghav.com>
On 8/8/25 14:11, Pankaj Raghav (Samsung) wrote:
> From: Pankaj Raghav <p.raghav@samsung.com>
>
> Many places in the kernel need to zero out larger chunks, but the
> maximum segment that can be zeroed out at a time by ZERO_PAGE is limited
> by PAGE_SIZE.
>
> This is especially annoying in block devices and filesystems where
> multiple ZERO_PAGEs are attached to the bio in different bvecs. With
> multipage bvec support in block layer, it is much more efficient to send
> out larger zero pages as a part of single bvec.
>
> This concern was raised during the review of adding Large Block Size
> support to XFS[1][2].
>
> Usually huge_zero_folio is allocated on demand, and it will be
> deallocated by the shrinker if there are no users of it left. At moment,
> huge_zero_folio infrastructure refcount is tied to the process lifetime
> that created it. This might not work for bio layer as the completions
> can be async and the process that created the huge_zero_folio might no
> longer be alive. And, one of the main points that came up during
> discussion is to have something bigger than zero page as a drop-in
> replacement.
>
> Add a config option PERSISTENT_HUGE_ZERO_FOLIO that will result in
> allocating the huge zero folio during early init and never free the memory
> by disabling the shrinker. This makes using the huge_zero_folio without
> having to pass any mm struct and does not tie the lifetime of the zero
> folio to anything, making it a drop-in replacement for ZERO_PAGE.
>
> If PERSISTENT_HUGE_ZERO_FOLIO config option is enabled, then
> mm_get_huge_zero_folio() will simply return the allocated page instead of
> dynamically allocating a new PMD page.
>
> Use this option carefully in resource constrained systems as it uses
> one full PMD sized page for zeroing purposes.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/20231027051847.GA7885@lst.de/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/ZitIK5OnR7ZNY0IG@infradead.org/
>
> Co-developed-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> Signed-off-by: Pankaj Raghav <p.raghav@samsung.com>
> ---
> include/linux/huge_mm.h | 16 ++++++++++++++++
> mm/Kconfig | 16 ++++++++++++++++
> mm/huge_memory.c | 40 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
> 3 files changed, 62 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
>
As mentioned, I really would like to have a kernel commandline parameter
for disabling huge zero folio.
Otherwise:
Reviewed-by: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cheers,
Hannes
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-18 12:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-08 12:11 [PATCH v2 0/5] add persistent huge zero folio support Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-08 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: rename huge_zero_page to huge_zero_folio Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-18 6:38 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-08-08 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: rename MMF_HUGE_ZERO_PAGE to MMF_HUGE_ZERO_FOLIO Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-18 6:39 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-08-08 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: add persistent huge zero folio Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-08 12:47 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-08 15:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-11 8:33 ` Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-18 12:02 ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2025-08-08 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm: add largest_zero_folio() routine Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-08 15:50 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-18 12:04 ` Hannes Reinecke
2025-08-08 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] block: use largest_zero_folio in __blkdev_issue_zero_pages() Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)
2025-08-18 12:05 ` Hannes Reinecke
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