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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
Cc: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>,
	Jonathan McDowell <noodles@earth.li>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	jmorris@namei.org, serge@hallyn.com, roberto.sassu@huawei.com,
	dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com, eric.snowberg@oracle.com,
	jarkko@kernel.org, jgg@ziepe.ca, sudeep.holla@kernel.org,
	maz@kernel.org, oupton@kernel.org, joey.gouly@arm.com,
	suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org, noodles@meta.com,
	sebastianene@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ima: debugging late_initcall_sync measurements
Date: Mon, 04 May 2026 08:02:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff28c6dcb60c357c752724927addaa8c4fd3bf2c.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHC9VhRE2kRr1fdDf6xgQgpSrtvqtP8Vy9LVGJhDZFUbzLKGmQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 2026-05-03 at 12:46 -0400, Paul Moore wrote:
> Regardless, assuming you always want IMA to leverage a TPMs when they
> exist, your reply suggests that using an initcall based IMA init
> scheme, even a late-sync initcall, may not be sufficient because
> deferred TPM initialization could happen later, yes?

Well yeah.  The TPM could be configured as a module, but that scenario is not of
interest.  That's way too late.  The case being addressed in this patch set is
when the TPM driver tries to initialize at device_initcall, returns
EPROBE_DEFER, and is retried at deferred_probe_initcall (late_initcall).  Since
ordering within an initcall is not supported, this patch attempts to initialize
IMA at late_initcall and similarly retries, in this case, at late_initcall_sync.

Mimi

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-04 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-24 13:23 [RFC PATCH v3 0/4] Fix IMA + TPM initialisation ordering issue Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-24 13:24 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/4] lsm: Allow LSMs to register for late_initcall_sync init Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-24 13:24 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/4] security: ima: call ima_init() again at late_initcall_sync for defered TPM Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-24 16:55   ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-24 20:25   ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-25  9:10     ` Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-24 13:24 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/4] Revert "tpm: tpm_crb_ffa: try to probe tpm_crb_ffa when it's built-in" Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-24 16:10   ` Sudeep Holla
2026-04-24 13:24 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/4] Revert "firmware: arm_ffa: Change initcall level of ffa_init() to rootfs_initcall" Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-24 16:09   ` Sudeep Holla
2026-04-25 14:19   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-05-08 18:03   ` Sudeep Holla
2026-04-29 20:01 ` [PATCH] ima: debugging late_initcall_sync measurements Mimi Zohar
2026-04-30  9:48   ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-30 21:39     ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-30 22:35       ` Paul Moore
2026-05-01  1:51         ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-03 16:46           ` Paul Moore
2026-05-04 12:02             ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2026-05-04 20:51               ` Paul Moore
2026-05-05 21:02                 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-05 22:55                   ` Paul Moore
2026-05-06  1:51                     ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-06  2:11                       ` Paul Moore
2026-05-07  2:25                         ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-07  8:10                           ` Roberto Sassu
2026-05-07 14:00                             ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-01 16:52       ` David Safford
2026-05-03 11:36         ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-03 12:42           ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-06  5:54             ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-05-06  7:23               ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-05-06 11:47               ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-06 13:57                 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-05-07  2:32                   ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-07  5:50                     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-05-07 11:28                       ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-07 12:41                         ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-05-07 20:03                           ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-05-07 21:36                             ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-08  9:06                               ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-05-08 12:55                                 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-08 13:41                                   ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-05-14 12:42                                     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-05-14 14:53                                       ` Mimi Zohar

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