From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J2m5u-0003xB-TL for openembedded-devel@openembedded.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:19:11 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J2m1c-0001N2-MF for openembedded-devel@openembedded.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:14:44 +0000 Received: from ip-62-143-227-114.1411n-cud12k-01.ish.de ([62.143.227.114]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:14:44 +0000 Received: from no2spam by ip-62-143-227-114.1411n-cud12k-01.ish.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:14:44 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: openembedded-devel@openembedded.org From: Rolf Leggewie Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:14:33 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4760C1BA.7060206@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-62-143-227-114.1411n-cud12k-01.ish.de User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) In-Reply-To: <4760C1BA.7060206@gmail.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: ANN: Sonkei X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:19:11 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Junqian Gordon Xu schrieb: > However, I don't get it how Sonkei differs from Angstrom Hi Gordon, thank you for your question. You are right, it might very well be that Sonkei does not differ technically very much from Angstrom. Quoting myself: > Technically, Sonkei will be an overlay to Angstrom and compiled > with OE. But Sonkei will mainly not be a technical fork, but one > focused on how we interact - respectfully. Indeed, it is our goal to stay rather close to Angstrom. Who knows, if things indeed changed, Sonkei might remerge into Angstrom. We plan to share patches and work with OE - just like Mickey has expressed his hopes. We will not only take, we will also give back. But we will do so from our own playground. > Is Sonkei something like Angstrom-stable? No. We cannot promise stability or usability, but we promise to take it seriously. Look at the efforts that Matthias made while creating Hentges ROM. I believe that is the kind of stuff you should expect. But usability does not stop at "usability of the programs and images" for me. There is also something like "usability of a community". I find it hard to describe in a few words that don't sound like I disrespect the choices Angstrom made. Trying to condense it down, I would say that Angstrom strictly enforces rules and consciously raises the (technical) bar for participation to reduce the drain from newbies on core people. To me this has come to feel like disrespecting people's past experiences and their lack of time. Sonkei will try a different approach. There is only one rule: Respect. If you prefer communication by hieroglyphs written on clay stones, we will respect that and might even participate. But you will also have to respect if we don't. We will also expect you to be willing to learn both technically and methodologically as we won't tolerate you being disrespectful to the one trying to help you. We do promise to 1) try and support you as much as possible as our free time permits and 2) try and lower the (technical) bar so everybody can bring to the community what they have to offer. The main difference will be in how you can expect to be treated (and are expected to treat others) in the Sonkei community. Regards Rolf