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From: Colin Guthrie <gmane@colin.guthr.ie>
To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: What does snd_pcm_delay() actually return?
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:51:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <g2r2j5$g3$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hod670x1s.wl%tiwai@suse.de>

Takashi Iwai wrote:
>> I think this 
>> was done due to the docs specifically say that it is the "difference 
>> between appl_ptr and hw_ptr" so it makes sense to assume this will 
>> return 0 when there is nothing waiting to be played. I would strongly 
>> recommend that you remove the implementation detail from the (supposedly 
>> high level) docs.
> 
> Why?  I don't see your logic...

Well in the pulseaudio driver, snd_pcm_delay() will typically *not* 
return 0 because it will include e.g. network latency.

Therefore the wine code which *expects* it to return 0 (e.g. waits for 
it to return 0) does not get the relevant trigger it needs.

The fact that the implementation detail is included in the docs means 
that the belief that this function *will* return 0 in all cases when no 
samples are left to be played is totally understandable. As you and 
James have confirmed, the snd_pcm_delay() function should return details 
about the delay expected. The fact that this is the "difference
 >> between appl_ptr and hw_ptr" does not seem to be correct in all 
cases/impelmentations.

I'm no alsa expert so forgive me if I'm just "not getting it". :p

Col

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-12 11:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-09 19:02 What does snd_pcm_delay() actually return? Lennart Poettering
2008-06-10 14:01 ` RafałMużyło
2008-06-10 14:36 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-06-11 16:56 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-11 20:24   ` Colin Guthrie
2008-06-11 21:40     ` Tomas Carnecky
2008-06-12 10:25     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-12 11:51       ` Colin Guthrie [this message]
2008-06-12 12:08         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-12 21:00           ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13  6:22             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-12 20:52   ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13  6:13     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 13:51       ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 13:55         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 14:29           ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13  6:59     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13  8:14       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 10:14         ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-06-13 12:44           ` Colin Guthrie
2008-06-13 13:06             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 14:48               ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 15:02                 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 15:42                   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-17  0:53                     ` Eliot Blennerhassett
2008-06-13 14:38           ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 15:27         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 15:44           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 15:59             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 16:20               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 16:38                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 16:48                   ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 19:55                 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-06-16 12:07                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-19 17:59                     ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 19:59                 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-06-13 14:25       ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 15:55         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 16:11           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 16:26             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 16:47               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 16:52                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 17:37                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2008-06-13 18:23                     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 18:48                     ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 18:43                 ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 18:29               ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 18:46                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 19:01                   ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 19:05                     ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-13 18:22           ` Lennart Poettering
2008-06-13 18:32             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-06-14  9:51             ` James Courtier-Dutton

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