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From: Dirk Gouders <dirk@gouders.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: alx.manpages@gmail.com, cjwatson@debian.org,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org, help-texinfo@gnu.org,
	nabijaczleweli@nabijaczleweli.xyz, g.branden.robinson@gmail.com,
	groff@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Accessibility of man pages
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2023 22:46:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ghcz4eksp5.fsf@gouders.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bkjym9bw.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 08 Apr 2023 23:02:11 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Dirk Gouders <dirk@gouders.net>
>> Cc: Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
>>         linux-man@vger.kernel.org, help-texinfo@gnu.org,
>>         nabijaczleweli@nabijaczleweli.xyz, g.branden.robinson@gmail.com,
>>         groff@gnu.org
>> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2023 21:48:13 +0200
>> 
>> $ find /usr/share/man -type f -exec bzgrep -l RLIMIT_NOFILE {} \;
>> /usr/share/man/man1/runuser.1.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man1/su.1.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man1/nghttpx.1.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man3/getdtablesize.3.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man3/mq_open.3.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man3/errno.3.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man3/sysconf.3.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man3p/getrlimit.3p.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man3p/sysconf.3p.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man3p/posix_spawn_file_actions_addclose.3p.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man0p/sys_resource.h.0p.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man2/pidfd_open.2.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man2/poll.2.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man2/getrlimit.2.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man2/open.2.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man2/select.2.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man2/fcntl.2.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man2/seccomp_unotify.2.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man2/dup.2.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man2/pidfd_getfd.2.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man7/fanotify.7.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man7/capabilities.7.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man7/unix.7.bz2
>> /usr/share/man/man5/proc.5.bz2
>> 
>> Yes, it's very slow but close to `man -K`:
>> 
>> find...             man -K...
>> 
>> real 107.45         real 96.34
>> user 117.06         user 70.11
>> sys 14.43           sys 26.86
>> 
>> [a thought later]
>> 
>> Oh, I found something much faster:
>> 
>> $ time -p find /usr/share/man -type f | xargs bzgrep -l RLIMIT_NOFILE
>> [snip]
>> 
>> real 24.30
>> user 32.34
>> sys 6.84
>> 
>> Hmm, perhaps, someone has an explanation for this?
>
> Multiprocessing, obviously.  Your CPU has more than one execution
> unit, so the pipe via xargs runs 'find' and 'bzgrep' in parallel on
> two different execution units.  By contrast, "find -exec" runs them
> sequentially, in a single thread.

Yes, that must be it, thanks.  I noticed `man -K...` uses up to four
CPUs in parallel and therefore was unsure.

With your explanation, we can get even faster:

$ time -p find /usr/share/man -type f | xargs -P 6 bzgrep -l RLIMIT_NOFILE
[snip]

real 7.56
user 32.97
sys 7.02

Dirk

PS: Colin, too late, I noticed a Mail-Followup-To Header in your mail.
    For the future: Is it correct that in such a case one should use
    that recipient list (without your address) -- even if he replies to
    something you wrote?  In that case: I'm sorry I did that wrong.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-08 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-25 20:37 Playground pager lsp(1) Dirk Gouders
2023-03-25 20:47 ` Dirk Gouders
2023-04-04 23:45   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-05  5:35     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-06  1:10       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-06  8:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-06  8:48           ` Gavin Smith
2023-04-07 22:01           ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-08  7:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-08 13:02               ` Accessibility of man pages (was: Playground pager lsp(1)) Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-08 13:42                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-08 16:06                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-08 13:47                 ` Colin Watson
2023-04-08 15:42                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-08 19:48                   ` Accessibility of man pages Dirk Gouders
2023-04-08 20:02                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-08 20:46                       ` Dirk Gouders [this message]
2023-04-08 21:53                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-08 22:33                           ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-09 10:28                       ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-04-08 20:31                     ` Ingo Schwarze
2023-04-08 20:59                       ` Dirk Gouders
2023-04-08 22:39                         ` Ingo Schwarze
2023-04-09  9:50                           ` Dirk Gouders
2023-04-09 10:35                             ` Dirk Gouders
     [not found]                 ` <87a5zhwntt.fsf@ada>
2023-04-09 12:05                   ` Compressed man pages (was: Accessibility of man pages (was: Playground pager lsp(1))) Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-09 12:17                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-09 18:55                       ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-04-09 12:29                     ` Colin Watson
2023-04-09 13:36                       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-09 13:47                         ` Compressed man pages Ralph Corderoy
2023-04-12  8:13                     ` Compressed man pages (was: Accessibility of man pages (was: Playground pager lsp(1))) Sam James
2023-04-12  8:32                       ` Compressed man pages Ralph Corderoy
2023-04-12 10:35                         ` Mingye Wang
2023-04-12 10:55                           ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-04-12 13:04                       ` Compressed man pages (was: Accessibility of man pages (was: Playground pager lsp(1))) Kerin Millar
2023-04-12 14:24                         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-12 18:52                           ` Mingye Wang
2023-04-12 20:23                             ` Compressed man pages Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-13 10:09                             ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-04-07  2:18         ` Playground pager lsp(1) G. Branden Robinson
2023-04-07  6:36           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-07 11:03             ` Gavin Smith
2023-04-07 14:43             ` man page rendering speed (was: Playground pager lsp(1)) G. Branden Robinson
2023-04-07 15:06               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-07 15:08                 ` Larry McVoy
2023-04-07 17:07                 ` man page rendering speed Ingo Schwarze
2023-04-07 19:04                 ` man page rendering speed (was: Playground pager lsp(1)) Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-07 19:28                   ` Gavin Smith
2023-04-07 20:43                     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-07 16:08               ` Colin Watson
2023-04-08 11:24               ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-04-07 21:26           ` reformatting man pages at SIGWINCH " Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-07 22:09             ` reformatting man pages at SIGWINCH Dirk Gouders
2023-04-07 22:16               ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-10 19:05                 ` Dirk Gouders
2023-04-10 19:57                   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-10 20:24                   ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-04-11  9:20                     ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-04-11  9:39                     ` Dirk Gouders
2023-04-17  6:23                       ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-04-08 11:40               ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-04-05 10:02     ` Playground pager lsp(1) Dirk Gouders
2023-04-05 14:19       ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-04-05 18:01         ` Dirk Gouders
2023-04-05 19:07           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-05 19:56             ` Dirk Gouders
2023-04-05 20:38             ` A less presumptive .info? (was: Re: Playground pager lsp(1)) Arsen Arsenović
2023-04-06  8:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-06  8:56                 ` Gavin Smith
2023-04-07 13:14                 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-04-06  1:31       ` Playground pager lsp(1) Alejandro Colomar
2023-04-06  6:01         ` Dirk Gouders

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