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From: Colin Guthrie <gmane@colin.guthr.ie>
To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] alsa-lib: UCM - Use Case Manager
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:07:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <i7ks75$39j$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimJQeLohP-3q=Qe1VrEe9DUuC+DZUJoyXDxKBSk@mail.gmail.com>

'Twas brillig, and Niels Mayer at 23/09/10 08:18 did gyre and gimble:
> IMHO, such a layer could obviate the need for pulseaudio and instead
> dynamically  invoke the appropriate ALSA constructs (dmix, dsnoop,
> plug, etc) needed to satisfy application constraints against hardware
> limitations.

I completely fail to see how this construct replaces PulseAudio.. The
UCM support is intended to be implemented in PA. We currently already
have a "poor man's UCM" in PA as we probe many popular configurations on
init to determine a list of "Profiles" the user can select. Once the UCM
stuff is available in ALSA, we (or rather Liam :p) can try and use UCM
instead of htis probing scheme. As not all h/w will instantly support
UCM metadata, the probing scheme will still be used as a fall back.

But obtaining these profiles is actually a very small part of PA. There
are many other things that PA does that is totally beyond this scope and
I see no way for ontologies or otherwise to implement those capabilities
and features.

Col

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-25 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-23 16:17 [PATCH 0/3] alsa-lib: UCM - Use Case Manager Liam Girdwood
2010-08-23 16:17 ` [PATCH 1/3] ucm: header - ALSA " Liam Girdwood
2010-08-24 19:09   ` Chris Winter
2010-08-24 20:34     ` Liam Girdwood
2010-08-23 16:17 ` [PATCH 3/3] ucm: build - add build support for " Liam Girdwood
2010-08-23 17:47 ` [PATCH 0/3] alsa-lib: UCM - " Jaroslav Kysela
2010-08-23 17:50   ` Mark Brown
2010-08-23 17:51     ` Mark Brown
2010-08-24  9:09   ` Liam Girdwood
2010-08-25  8:28     ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-08-25  9:26       ` Liam Girdwood
2010-08-25  9:35         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-08-25 10:43           ` Liam Girdwood
2010-08-25 16:34             ` Jaroslav Kysela
     [not found]               ` <1283864698.3048.26.camel@odin>
2010-09-07 14:42                 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-09-07 15:53                   ` Mark Brown
2010-09-07 18:17                     ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-09-07 18:53                       ` Mark Brown
2010-09-08  7:54                         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-09-08  9:47                           ` Mark Brown
2010-09-08  8:19                         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-09-09 12:16                           ` Mark Brown
2010-09-07 20:02                       ` Liam Girdwood
2010-09-07 22:43                         ` Mark Brown
2010-09-20 16:26                   ` Colin Guthrie
2010-09-21 17:13                     ` Chris Winter
2010-09-21 17:40                       ` Mark Brown
2010-09-21 18:11                       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-09-22 11:47                         ` Colin Guthrie
2010-09-22 13:20                         ` Mark Brown
2010-09-22 14:06                           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-09-22 15:14                             ` Mark Brown
2010-09-22 18:05                               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2010-09-22 18:48                                 ` Mark Brown
2010-09-23  7:18                                   ` Niels Mayer
2010-09-23 10:06                                     ` Mark Brown
2010-09-25 13:07                                     ` Colin Guthrie [this message]
2010-09-22 15:20                             ` Liam Girdwood
2010-08-24  1:23 ` Raymond Yau
2010-08-24  9:41   ` Mark Brown

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