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From: David Brown <david@westcontrol.com>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: SSD - TRIM command
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 16:49:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <iiud2r$qci$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=WNk3=3Jwm-YJeujcrdh-OQ4W4mJrq+YJ5Xv4k@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/02/2011 15:39, Roberto Spadim wrote:
> guys...
> if my ssd fail, i buy another...
> let's make software ok, the hardware is another problem
> raid1 should work with floppy disks, hard disks, ssd, nbd... that's the point
> make solutions for hardware mix
> the question is simple, could we send TRIM command to all mirrors (for
> stripe just disks that should receive it)? if device don't have TRIM
> we should translate it for a similar command, with the same READ
> effect (no problem if it's not atomic)
>


I've been reading a little more about this.  It seems that the days of 
TRIM may well be numbered - the latest generation of high-end SSDs have 
more powerful garbage collection algorithms, together with more spare 
blocks, making TRIM pretty much redundant.  This is, of course, the most 
convenient solution for everyone (as long as it doesn't cost too much!).

The point of the TRIM command is to tell the SSD that a particular block 
is no longer being used, so that the SSD can erase it in the background 
- that way when you want to write more data, there are more free blocks 
ready and waiting.  But if you've got plenty of spare blocks, it's easy 
to have them erased in advance and you don't need TRIM.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-09 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-07 20:07 SSD - TRIM command Roberto Spadim
2011-02-08 17:37 ` maurice
2011-02-08 18:31   ` Roberto Spadim
     [not found]     ` <AANLkTik5SumqyTN5LZVntna8nunvPe7v38TSFf9eCfcU@mail.gmail.com>
2011-02-08 20:50       ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-08 21:18         ` maurice
2011-02-08 21:33           ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09  7:44   ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-09  9:05     ` Eric D. Mudama
2011-02-09 15:45       ` Chris Worley
2011-02-09 13:29     ` David Brown
2011-02-09 14:39       ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 15:00         ` Scott E. Armitage
2011-02-09 15:52           ` Chris Worley
2011-02-09 19:15             ` Doug Dumitru
2011-02-09 19:22               ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 16:19           ` Eric D. Mudama
2011-02-09 16:28             ` Scott E. Armitage
2011-02-09 17:17               ` Eric D. Mudama
2011-02-09 18:18                 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 18:24                   ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2011-02-09 18:30                     ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 18:38                       ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2011-02-09 18:46                         ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 18:52                           ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 19:13                           ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2011-02-09 19:16                             ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 19:21                               ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2011-02-09 19:27                                 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-21 18:24             ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-21 18:30               ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 15:49         ` David Brown [this message]
2011-02-21 18:20           ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-21 18:25             ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-21 18:34               ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-21 18:48                 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-21 18:51               ` Mathias Burén
2011-02-21 19:32                 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-21 19:38                   ` Mathias Burén
2011-02-21 19:39                     ` Mathias Burén
2011-02-21 19:43                       ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-21 20:45                       ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-21 19:39                   ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-21 19:51                     ` Doug Dumitru
2011-02-21 19:57                       ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-21 20:47                     ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-21 21:02                       ` Mathias Burén
2011-02-21 22:52                         ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-21 23:41                           ` Mathias Burén
2011-02-21 23:42                             ` Mathias Burén
2011-02-21 23:52                               ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22  0:25                                 ` Mathias Burén
2011-02-22  0:30                                 ` Brendan Conoboy
2011-02-22  0:36                                 ` Eric D. Mudama
2011-02-22  1:46                                   ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22  1:52                                     ` Mathias Burén
2011-02-22  1:55                                       ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22  2:01                                         ` Eric D. Mudama
2011-02-22  2:02                                         ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2011-02-22  2:22                                           ` Guy Watkins
2011-02-22  2:27                                             ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22  3:45                                               ` NeilBrown
2011-02-22  4:37                                                 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22  2:38                                         ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-22  3:29                                           ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22  3:42                                             ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22  4:04                                             ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-22  4:30                                               ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22 14:45                                                 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-22 17:15                                                   ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22  0:32                           ` Eric D. Mudama

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