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From: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>
To: linux-serial@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: New serial card development
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:06:57 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <k66mc1$cml$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAJp1Oe6ekkaZ29iwJ91VXwM_CSL6Z0_KEaqVQTa1XMzTB5niEQ@mail.gmail.com

On 2012-10-23, Matt Schulte <matts@commtech-fastcom.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 03:24:06PM -0500, Matt Schulte wrote:
>>>
>>> What I would need to have happen is for a flag to be set that says
>>> "enable 9-bit mode transmit" or something.  When set, the first byte
>>> of data of a given write will go out with mark parity, then the rest
>>> of the bytes will have space parity.  The one byte with mark is the
>>> address byte.
>
>> Why not just have a userspace library routine which simply uses
>> tcgetattr/tcsetattr to toggle a bit (probably a new bit in c_cflag) in
>> struct termios, issue the single byte write, and then toggle the bit
>> back?

Can it be guaranteed that it's going to be fast enough at high
baud-rates to prevent any gap between the first byte and subsequent
bytes?

>> In Linux, system calls are fast, so using some extra ioctl's to toggle
>> the termios structure is probably the way to go.  It's also much more
>> general since it doesn't presume a very specific protocol (i.e., your
>> magic multi-drop protocol).
>
> Also this isn't a magic protocol, it is a very old protocol that is
> apparently still in use today because I have several customers still
> asking for it.

It's been pretty much a standard in the microctroller world for a
_long_ time.  I remember 9-bit HW support with special interrupt on
the "address" byte from almost 30 years ago: when I first worked with
the Intel 8051 in 1983, it had 9-bit support in it's UART (and we used
it).

I now work for a company that has manufactured PC serial boards for
25+ years, and we still get regular requests for that feature (and our
boards do support it -- though our Linux driver does not).

-- 
Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! I guess you guys got
                                  at               BIG MUSCLES from doing too
                              gmail.com            much STUDYING!


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-23 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-09 18:43 New serial card development Matt Schulte
2012-10-14  9:37 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-15 19:08   ` Matt Schulte
2012-10-15 23:26     ` Alan Cox
2012-10-16  2:32       ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-17 20:24         ` Matt Schulte
2012-10-19 21:21           ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-23 16:27             ` Matt Schulte
2012-10-23 16:31               ` Matt Schulte
2012-10-23 18:38                 ` Greg KH
2012-10-29 20:04                   ` Matt Schulte
2012-10-31 21:55                     ` Matt Schulte
2012-11-01 22:03                       ` Matt Schulte
2012-11-01 22:26                         ` Alan Cox
2012-11-02 18:47                           ` Matt Schulte
2012-11-02 20:21                             ` Alan Cox
2012-10-23 18:06               ` Grant Edwards [this message]
2012-10-23 18:26                 ` Alan Cox
2012-10-23 18:45                   ` Grant Edwards
2012-10-23 19:16                     ` Greg KH
2012-10-23 19:42                       ` Grant Edwards
2012-10-23 20:10                         ` Greg KH
2012-10-23 19:24                     ` Alan Cox
2012-10-23 19:48                       ` Grant Edwards
2012-10-23 20:31                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-23 20:41                       ` Grant Edwards
     [not found]       ` <CAJp1Oe6k7NWqdbYkJnd787JiT55-wSbG+tX1tP7Cy-oPShdVaA@mail.gmail.com>
2012-10-17 20:23         ` Matt Schulte
2012-10-17 21:53           ` Alan Cox

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