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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCH 1/3] introduce SYS_CLONE_MASK
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:20:27 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m11wit34fo.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070409020600.6338BD82F4@pipsqueak.sf.frob.com> (Roland McGrath's message of "Sun, 8 Apr 2007 19:06:00 -0700 (PDT)")

Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com> writes:

> I concur with Eric's assessment.  Adding new magic bits to the generic
> clone path seems like a poor way to cope with kernel threads.  I think
> it's better if kernel thread setup gets less like normal user process
> setup.  I also agree with Eric that PPID of 0 is a very natural way for
> kernel threads to be displayed.  We need to know more about the nature
> of the compatibility issue in procps to judge whether there is good
> reason to avoid changing it.

I just investigated the procps issue.  Using init_task as the parent
nothing sticks out as being wrong in /proc.

Further when I modified pstree to accept 0 as it's starting pid (from
which all else would be rooted).  All of the kernel threads showed up.

So if anything I it is a feature that kernel threads don't show up
by default in pstree (when PPID == 0).  It isn't a subtle kernel bug.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-09 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-08 15:53 [RFC, PATCH 1/3] introduce SYS_CLONE_MASK Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-08 16:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-08 16:57   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-09  1:05     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-09  2:06       ` Roland McGrath
2007-04-09  2:06         ` Roland McGrath
2007-04-09 16:20         ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2007-04-09 17:30           ` Robin Holt
2007-04-10  0:35             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-10  9:56               ` Robin Holt
2007-04-09  9:06       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-09 10:43         ` Robin Holt
2007-04-09 14:36           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-09 14:52             ` Robin Holt
2007-04-10 15:47     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-10 18:20       ` Jan Engelhardt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-29  2:59 Albert Cahalan
2007-05-29  4:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-29  3:23 Albert Cahalan
2007-05-29  4:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-29  5:56   ` Roland McGrath
2007-05-30  0:33   ` Albert Cahalan
2007-05-30  1:43     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-26  7:34   ` Jan Engelhardt

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